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Topic: white 549 vs john deere 2700 plows?
Posted By: nick121
Subject: white 549 vs john deere 2700 plows?
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 11:45am
Hi, just wondering how a John Deere 2700 plow would compare to a white 549? 5 furrow 18, I will be pulling with the all is 7040.. both priced the same. The white is autoreset I think the jd plow is too. I would require auto reset. I missed out on a 2000 allis plow, which was hydraulic reset.



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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 12:05pm
I really can't say about that model of JD plow but out here, even JD guys who bleed green have an IHC or White spinner plow hidden in the shed.  They both pull much better then the green thing.

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Posted By: WALLACE220
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 12:22pm
Go with the white. The steering cylinder on the deere is expensive to replace, its a good plow but parts will cost you dearly.


Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 12:39pm
Yeah I have a white 508 right now, but only 3 furrow 16 inch. How about a Massey 880 vs the white? Are hydraulic resets better than spring?

I would like a kevernland but cant afford it lol. 

The john Deere is closer, are they that bad? I would like one that turns the soil pretty good. 


Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 12:54pm
Also,would the 7040 pull a 6 furrow massey 880? 


Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 2:50pm
I had a White 588 5 furrow with spring resets. A heavy plow and good for it's era.
Traded it for a Kverneland vari width 5 furrow in '94 and now have a Kveneland 6 bottom. I wouldn't plow with anything but a Kverneland now.


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Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 8:34pm
    What John said.   Duane

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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 9:04pm
I would consider  JD to the bottom of the list. Have a JD that I call a one way. Throws dirt down hill but won't through dirt up hill.      MACK


Posted By: KY poorboy
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 11:22pm
If you want to stand the dirt up on its edge, get a deere. If you want to turn it over, get an Oliver or White. They also pull a lot easier because they sit closer to the tractor. You couldn't give me a Deere plow, as Mack said, they are the bottom of the plow list.


Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 12:24am
the white will pull easier and do a better job


Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 5:01am
okay.. white it will be.


Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 8:12am
While a 7040 may pull the 6 bottom, I'd strongly suggest staying at 5 bottom. Oversized plows back in the day is why so many of the "big" tractors now are so worn out. Going big for a plow day(recreational tillage) is way different than plowing 160 acres because you have to lol! The 2 pinion differential will thank you.

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Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 3:02pm
yeah.. Im not going to get a 6 furrow. I sometimes see them fairly cheap but I do not want to kill the tractor.


Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 3:03pm
it should pull a 5-18 plow comfortably though


Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 4:11pm
Don't forget, most larger plows can drop off the last one or two moldboards.

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Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 6:14pm
Another vote for the White.

In Idaho where they loved plowing, IH was super common, but Whites were out there. Like said above, many a JD tractor out plowing rarely pulls green.

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Posted By: nick121
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 3:56pm
How about a international 710? I can get one for $1000 with new shares and a spare molboard included


Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 5:21pm
IH plows are excellent.

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 6:43am
IH 710 or 720 will be the top of the heap for all the plows mentioned. You'd probably even pull 6 bottoms with one of those. Not that you really should, but it would.


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 8:12am
Having worked at a CaseIH dealer in the parts department I'd say a 720 over a 710 by a ways in my book but my book also says there are lots of cast parts on these IH plows that are common to break and are very expensive so look for a parts plow also.

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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 8:15am
Neighbor pulled a 710 6 bottom 20", I believe, with their 7040 PS. It pulled it pretty decent but because I think it was a 20" it covered not so good. The 7040 did wipe out a final drive in the process.

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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 9:31pm
If you buy a later IH, make sure the 3pt steering pivot will turn. If they set out in the weather and not used for some time, they will freeze so tight they will not come loose. Got one I spent 1 1/2 days trying to free up. Gave up, going to send to China in pieces.    MACK



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