D10 Timing and Temp
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Topic: D10 Timing and Temp
Posted By: Jeff K
Subject: D10 Timing and Temp
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2016 at 8:59pm
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I have two issues on my D10 restoration. 1. I set-up the timing per the instructions in the service manual and the tractor seems to run well. I wanted to test the timing so I put a timing light on I cannot see the Fire mark that I am supposed to be seeing. I rotated the distributor both ways to the point that it won't run and still cannot see the mark (which I painted in white to make it most visible). Granted I do not know exactly what 1600 rpm's is but a fast idle should be close. I don't get it. 2. I have a brand new water pump, a brand new temp gauge, brand new radiator and the tractor runs in the red at about 230 degrees. I even took the thermostat out and still it gets up to just over the red mark (220 degrees). I tested the thermostat and it reads a little hot but within about 15 degrees). You guys have any suggestions or ideas? Thanks |
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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2016 at 9:17pm
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Which hole are you looking thru? ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2016 at 10:27pm
| Adjust ignition timing at FULL wide open throttle. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2016 at 5:56am
| Put an IR thermometer, on various spots on the motor. The 149 motor has the sending unit right next to the exhaust manifold, its not always accurate. The IR heat gun can find hot spots. Sometimes there can be mineral deposits, inside the block, causing poor coolant flow... |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2016 at 6:21am
Was the engine tore down and block cleaned? ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Jeff K wrote:Posted By: Jeff K
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2016 at 7:30am
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I am looking through the right hole (left side center). I will try timing at full open throttle. Is there a way to test water flow? How's this for an idea? If I drill a small hole in a rubber cork and place that in the hole where the heat sensor goes and then put my wife's digital cooking thermometer in there wouldn't that be a good test to the actual temperature? Jeff |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2016 at 8:00am
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Jeff, Try taking the temp gage probe out and testing in a pan of boiling water with a known accurate thermometer beside and see if it reads ok? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2016 at 9:27am
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If the timing is off, it can cause the engine to run hot.
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Posted By: Jeff K
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2016 at 1:41pm
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The timing was indeed off. I think I am a whole gear tooth off. I spun the distributor about 15 degrees c-clockwise and the fire line showed up and now it runs cool. Thanks guys :) Jeff |