New project D17 propane
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Topic: New project D17 propane
Posted By: Sandknob
Subject: New project D17 propane
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 11:02am
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A buddy of mine and I made a road trip to Edwardsville IL last Sunday to pick up this old tractor. It turns out it is a 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 factory propane. It needs a few assorted parts (engine, flywheel, all the propane parts and little odds and ends). Has a neat set of steel wheels as well. I'll be removing them though. Here are a few pics. It may be a little while before I get to this one, but I'll get it back together. Adam http://s164.photobucket.com/user/sandknob2001/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160926_165306322_zpsxltdfvtf.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s164.photobucket.com/user/sandknob2001/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160926_165317605_zpsotiv73hq.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  |
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Posted By: Dmpaul89
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 11:56am
| There's a salvage yard, not far from me. That has 3 d17s to pull parts off of. No propane models though.you Could get some better sheet metal maybe. I didn't think about the fact that a gleaner engine will be different flywheel that what you need. If you go that route and need one I will have it here. Also the governor, I think gleaners have a belt drive governor |
Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 12:13pm
| I think the belt driven governors were used on the Chevy engines. The Allis-manufactured engines used gear driven governors similar to the tractor governors. |
Posted By: Dmpaul89
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 12:53pm
| That makes sense |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 1:08pm
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You will want to search ebay for the high octane engine kit if you want to build a 226 propane engine for that. It has the regulator gas tank as well so I am not sure what would have made it a factory propane looks like my serries 1 gas with the motor out right now. Honestly if it was mine I would look for a more modern diesel that would fit. I have looked into a few different diesel options. Or I would get a 226 gas and put it together as a gas those are great tractors with the gas motor. But I so wish I found a project one without a motor so I could build a fuel efficient diesel tractor out of it. That is my dream project I love my d17 just wish I had one that burned less money haying all summer. It is too bad that a 180 or 175 are not easy to find around here. Good luck however you decide to go it will be a great build. |
Posted By: Sandknob
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 1:14pm
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It has the matching propane side hood sheets. Someone at one time had converted it to gasoline. I actually forgot to mention that I bought it from dmpaul89. Thanks to him again and it was good talking with you. Adam |
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 3:35pm
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Adam I have a few parts you may need. Sent you a PM... ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 4:12pm
| I know you want to go back original so I'm not commenting about that, but I did notice what a fine set of fenders you have there, so I imagine the rest of what's left hasn't been abused. |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 4:13pm
| Doggone Shameless, it's about time you jumped in here. |
Posted By: Sandknob
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 7:28pm
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Leon, I hope you were joking. Those fenders are shot. One is halfway usable, but the other is cracked all the way across. Adam |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 7:32pm
| I am wondering what type of steal wheels are hiding under the rubber. Could they be some thing that came out of a factory on an older tractor and where moved to the d17 or are they totally home made? They look like a interesting puzzle to me. |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 8:12pm
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Dan73, those rims the irons are welded to have had tires on them before... you can see where the tire irons bent the rim edges... On the fenders, I got one tractor that I simply cut a taller sheet to bolt up higher and that sure stopped it from floppin around. Sandknob, good luck on bringing the old girl back to life as an LP gas tractor... I would like to find one that is in decent shape, was a day late on one that the new owner was going to convert it to gas because of the higher compression. and had plans for the tank for something else. And another sweetie would be a 190XT on propane... and fellow down the road had no luck at all starting it in the winter, engine heater and salamander heater to get it started. Finally he put a diesel in it just because he wouldn't shut off the liquid valve and let her run till it died and then shut the switch off. Man, that XT on propane was so smooth, almost like it was silk.  ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: Sandknob
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 10:05pm
| I looked closer at them tonight and they are two narrow rims put together and then had the spokes welded to the power adjust rims. Interesting way to do it. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 10:08pm
| Neat I love seeing how people made creative solutions to their problems in the past. |
Posted By: Michael Crowe
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 10:34pm
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I'm pretty sure I have a log carb for your tractor. I'll check and post a picture. ------------- The 14th Annual Exclusive AC Swap Meet will be held in Boonville, MO, March 7-8, 2025. See the club website for details: http://www.moacclub.com/ |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2016 at 3:00am
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http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=129356&PID=1064452&title=d17-lp-engine#1064452" rel="nofollow - http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=129356&PID=1064452&title=d17-lp-engine#1064452 Lp engine incase you didn't see it. |
Posted By: old farmer
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2016 at 5:46am
| The rear wheels means there is a good chance that Amish owned it at one time. |
Posted By: AndyinWI
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2016 at 11:14pm
| I love my D-17 Propane! It is pretty much the only smaller tractor that sees regular use anymore. not only is the fuel cheap, but it is easy on fuel. and no matter how long it sits it will start. Don't have to worry about carb, bad gas issues. |