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 Topic: went to an auction today
 Posted By: JohnCO
 Subject: went to an auction today
 Date Posted: 14 Sep 2016 at 10:20pm
 
 
        
          | Got this for $2,500.  No cap on the exhaust, hope it's not too seized.  What year might it be?
 
 
	
	
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	 https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/Allis-Chalmers-Motor-Grader-10ft-Moldboard-Mid-Scarifier-No-Shanks-8-25-20-Tires-Municipality/32001565/LotDetail.asp?lid=32001565" rel="nofollow - Allis Chalmers Motor Grader, 10ft Moldboard, Mid Scarifier, No Shanks, 8.25-20 Tires, Municipality  https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/Allis-Chalmers-Motor-Grader-10ft-Moldboard-Mid-Scarifier-No-Shanks-8-25-20-Tires-Municipality/32001565/LotDetail.asp?lid=32001565" rel="nofollow - Lot # 98   (Sale Order: 101 of 321) 
	 Allis Chalmers Motor Grader, 10ft 
Moldboard, Mid Scarifier, No Shanks, 8.25-20 Tires, Municipality Unit, 
Inoperable, Seized Engine, S/N:D-5677 
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 Posted By: TREVMAN
 Date Posted: 14 Sep 2016 at 10:27pm
 
 
        
          | Pretty decent looking unit. Hopefully some acetone/atf will loosen it up. Mid 50's ? Good luck, Trev. |  
 Posted By: shameless (ne)
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 4:01am
 
 
        
          | nice looker John! a neighbor had one like that, his was an open station and he built a plywood cab for it. the cab was good looking...not slapped together. he used it to clean snow off his parking lot in town. I don't remember the # of it. |  
 Posted By: DiyDave
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 4:36am
 
 
        
          | Good thing is, if that old spark motor is seized, you can put a WD motor, out of a tractor right back in... |  
 Posted By: Dgrader
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 5:47am
 
 
        
          | Should be a plate with serial number on it on frame on right side above the step. Get that and we'll tell ya what year john. I'd say late 50's to early 60's. They used that round tube main frame till 64. 
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 Posted By: DMiller
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 6:14am
 
 
        
          | Engine looks similar to WD by manifolds if it cannot be fixed maybe a transplant? |  
 Posted By: Ages Cat
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 11:41am
 
 
        
          | The graders use a different crankshaft than the farm tractor. The  shaft is longer to accept the drive pulley for the hydraulic system. Our engine was seized and the crankshaft was cracked about 1/2 the circumference. Be ready to either find a crankshaftshaft or find a D17 engine. 
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 Curt Anderson
 HD3, HD5B, HD6AG,HD6B dozer,  I-400,615, 616,620,720,ACP25 lift truck, 1956 D Grader, AC 540 loader, AC #84 plow, Simplicity tractors, Agco MT225, Agco 2025,
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 Posted By: JohnCO
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 12:00pm
 
 
        
          | Serial # is D5677, don't suppose the 56 stands for the year?  May be newer, I'm thinking. I don't really need one but always have wanted one, I'm sure there will be work for it.
 I just happen to have a D17 that was in a barn fire, probably the engine is ok but first I'm putting the acetone/atf in it.  Dropped it off at a friends Pumpkin Farm for part of the machinery display, along with my 655 crawler and D17 propane.  I figure it can sit with the stuff in the cylinders until after Halloween then I'll put a battery in it, start it up and drive it the two miles home - Yeah, Right! lol
 
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 Posted By: JohnCO
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 12:02pm
 
 
        
          | Ages Cat, what is the SN on you D? 
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 Posted By: Dgrader
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 12:15pm
 
 
        
          | 5677 makes it a 1959. 
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 Posted By: JohnCO
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 2:46pm
 
 
        
          | Thanks! 
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 Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 8:33pm
 
 
        
          | You stole it!  This a D Special with all the options including the step down transmission that everyone with a D grader would like to have. Only missing power steering.  D-17 engine (rib along the block just above the oil pan) 
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 Posted By: bikley
 Date Posted: 15 Sep 2016 at 8:49pm
 
 
        
          | John if you get bored with it I'll take it off your hands nice looking piece of equipment could use it on my gravel road
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 Posted By: JohnCO
 Date Posted: 16 Sep 2016 at 12:37am
 
 
        
          | bikley, I want to get it running and play with it first, may sell it someday, or perhaps my heirs will have a great sale.  Long drive back to Maryland if you road it, could probable pay for the trip by grading drives along the way. Calvin, thanks for the information.  The steering wheel turns about one full revolution before the wheels start to move, may have to look into adjusting it.
 The sale bill says no shanks but when loading the machine I noticed they were in the tool box above the blade.
 I notice there is orange paint on the back side of the blade.  Was orange the factory color in 1959?
 
 
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 Posted By: DiyDave
 Date Posted: 16 Sep 2016 at 5:13am
 
 
        
          | You could get The D graders in orange or yellow... |  
 Posted By: michale34
 Date Posted: 16 Sep 2016 at 9:04am
 
 
        
          | My dad had a d grader as far as I know its still being used today I know for sure it was last year he called it a "motor patrol" I think its a 58  model because mr free bought it new at the same time my dad bought his new insley model l dragline . the allis chalmers dealer sold insley and barber green back then |  
 Posted By: Ages Cat
 Date Posted: 16 Sep 2016 at 11:23am
 
 
        
          | Our grader is a 1956,D-4997.Gasoline D special with WD45 engine. 
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 Curt Anderson
 HD3, HD5B, HD6AG,HD6B dozer,  I-400,615, 616,620,720,ACP25 lift truck, 1956 D Grader, AC 540 loader, AC #84 plow, Simplicity tractors, Agco MT225, Agco 2025,
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 Posted By: darrel in ND
 Date Posted: 16 Sep 2016 at 9:43pm
 
 
        
          | Well, John. You certainly got a good deal on that. Least wise, I think so. Good luck with it! Darrel |  
 Posted By: JohnCO
 Date Posted: 16 Sep 2016 at 10:03pm
 
 
        
          | I went over to the pumpkin farm where it is on display and put some atf/acetone in the cylinders.  The spark plug on #1 looks pretty oily, a bit of rust on 2 and 3, #4 looks fine.  Started to put a pop can on the exhaust pipe and discovered it was welded to the manifold.  The pipe was loose as the weld had broken.  Put the can over the top of the manifold with some duct tape to hold it on better.  It had no muffler so will get one and put in the bolt that is supposed to hold it in the manifold.  Looked it over some more and am pretty sure the whole machine was orange from the factory.  Another project, but getting it running is most important. 
 
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 Posted By: LeonR2013
 Date Posted: 26 Sep 2016 at 7:18am
 
 
        
          | John that is a solid looking old machine. I hope it runs soon and you'll find how useful it is. |  
 Posted By: Charlie175
 Date Posted: 26 Sep 2016 at 7:59am
 
 
        
          | Our town has one that they still use occasionally on the gravel roads 
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 '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10  , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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