mounting pump on wd 45 crank pulley with power ste
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Topic: mounting pump on wd 45 crank pulley with power ste
Posted By: HudCo
Subject: mounting pump on wd 45 crank pulley with power ste
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2016 at 9:43am
| wanting to mount pump to crank shaft, it is wd45 with factory power steering, wondering what needs to be done to mount a coupler to that crank pulley and what pump will be the best. needs to run the f11 instead of the pto driven pump |
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Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2016 at 2:47pm
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Does that pulley have the holes for the front pump adapter? I've heard that the Ford front adapter you can get from Steiner will work on a WD crank pulley. I'd have to go check the model of pump I got from Hyd Surplus, but it was about $250 or so and runs my loader just fine. Mine was on a D17 though. Mounting the pump might be a challenge. Maybe have to fab a bracket that uses a couple of holes for the wide front plate. Or fab some brackets and mount the pump off to the side and use a longer PS belt and drive it that way. AaronSEIA |
Posted By: WDDave
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 9:49am
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My pump on my WD is driven from the pulley on the front end of the crank mine also has power steering so pulley has two belts and the ID of pulley is splined for a short shaft that goes out the front to a coupler that drives the HYD pump for a loader. My pump is a Vickers #V2 1S13R15A 20L The seals are bad and the coupling is beat I would like to replace them both I figure I'm looking at $500.00 would like to get this done cheaper if I can. They aren't so great but here are a few pic's of mine.    ------------- WD ,wide front, with loader |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 10:03am
| A front pump system for an A-C "445" all-hydraulic loader had a 1/2" thick drive disc that you or the Dealership had to WELD on the inside of the crank pulley. It fit flush with the crankshaft pulleys front. You needed a line-up dowel slug to get it centered. The pump had a drive connection with two ears that fit inside the two drive slots of this drive disc. I wish I had a picture to show. |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 11:03am
| dr. allis i went on to minnparr site parts look up could not find 445, i found was i600 front mounting coupler shaft and pump dont know if it is the same as what you are talking about |
Posted By: WDDave
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 11:24am
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Here's is my front pulley ,has a splined insert in center with rubber bushings around each bolt. Hard to see in the pic but there are splines on the end of the shaft. Probably need to align in the same manner Dr Allis described and looks like this one is drilled and tapped for the 4 bolts. Don't have any idea on part #'s probably any place that makes hydraulic hoses might have or know where to find this type or similar couplings.  ------------- WD ,wide front, with loader |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 12:33pm
| The A-C built system I am referring to positions the live hyd pump directly underneath the radiator, between the crank pulley and the steering gearbox. Other than the two hoses going to the pump, you don't really even know it's in there. |
Posted By: WDDave
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 2:04pm
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DrAllis, that does sound like a better set up. Sounds like the hand crank would still be accessible where I cannot start mine by hand if I needed to. ------------- WD ,wide front, with loader |
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 3:08pm
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I doubt you'd be able to run the hand crank. I think what the Dr is refering to is something that bolts to the front crank pulley but sits tight so is between the engine and the front pedistal. The AC front pump for the D17 came out the front bolster and had the pump external to the engine. AaronSEIA |
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 3:14pm
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If you go to the AGCO parts book and search loaders, it's page 108 of the All Loaders book. AaronSEIA |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 6:47pm
| Hand crank has to be removed. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 6:49pm
| If you're going to hand crank a loader tractor, you'd have to leave the loader up when you put it in the shed. I've never seen one that would allow you to get in there to wing a hand crank with the loader down. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 7:26pm
| Page #118 shows the crank pulley and the disc that has to be welded inside the pulley. Also the line-up pilot is shown there too for centering it in the pulley. |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2016 at 9:05am
From Loader manual ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2016 at 9:18am
Pulley ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2016 at 9:58am
| thanks you guys for the info and photos that spline drive looks like one we took of a customers 9n ford , i found the parts for the sloted drive on the agco parts think i will order up some parts un less some on here has some they want to sell |
Posted By: Michael Crowe
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2016 at 11:58am
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The disc and the pilot tool are no longer available according to a gentleman that borrowed my pilot tool. ------------- The 14th Annual Exclusive AC Swap Meet will be held in Boonville, MO, March 7-8, 2025. See the club website for details: http://www.moacclub.com/ |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2016 at 10:55pm
| did not make any calls today but is the coupler avaliable ? with afew dimensions and a crank pulley i believe i could make that disc on lathe and mill if the coupler is available we could biuld it of of that |