trivia question
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Topic: trivia question
Posted By: tbran
Subject: trivia question
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 4:03pm
what tractor had the longest build run with the same model #?
ie B Allis , 990 Case etc... not talking about say 4000 SERIES fords, only 4000 on the hood rule out 4600 - if I made myself clear...
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Posted By: patrickmull
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 4:13pm
i think i heard the fordson
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Posted By: TREVMAN
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 4:28pm
Posted By: hillmonkey
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 4:28pm
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 4:32pm
I'm going with, dang I hate to even say this, but the IHC T-6 and TD-6 they where built from 1940 to 1969if I did the math right that's 29 years. Yes they where sold as farm tractors back in the day.
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Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 4:36pm
I'm wrong it's the John Deere D like Trev said. Leave it to John Deere to just keep building the same old tractor in-tell no one will buy one. lol
------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 5:03pm
Fordson had the largest number of any one model . Fordsons Model F Made in US 1917 to 1928, Total...........747,681 units. It just took JD 30 years to figure out they were still building new antique tractors 
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 6:10pm
CTuckerNWIL wrote:
Fordson had the largest number of any one model . Fordsons Model F Made in US 1917 to 1928, Total...........747,681 units. It just took JD 30 years to figure out they were still building new antique tractors 
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Ain't that the truth! Side note...I've never actually seen a Fordson F in person I don't think.
I would guess either Deere "D" or Farmall "H".
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 6:43pm
That Fordson put many tractor companies out of business because it sold for $375 a unit where the makers of much bigger tractors were trying to get a few thousand per tractor.
While Deere made the D for 30 years, I'm sure there were enough significant changes that most parts for the last one didn't fit the early years. They had troubles with the early flywheels and many were updated in the field.
Deere had a tendency to keep the same model number though lots changed. I know there were at least 4 versions of the 4020 op manual, and two versions of the parts book and shop manual. The side console 4020 shared so little with the early 4020 that they had the separate books. In the preside console 4020 there were three versions of the operator's manual because of changes in how it was started and changes from oil to dry air cleaners and probably several others. For sure the wiring harnesses changed at least three times. The side console 4020 moved the remote hydraulic valves from the dash to the back of the tractor and the controls from the dash to the side console. Almost nothing in the hydraulics was the same in the side console version. Diesel engine parts from the later version will go in the early block but its hard to start because the late block was a quarter inch shorter than the early block and that hurt the compression ratio.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 6:57pm
Speaking of John Deere D, I have a funny little family story. My great-great grandpa had a small farm, and always hired a thrashing outfit to come and thresh his crops. One season they were threshing oats (sadly, I don't know what year) but the guy with the thrasher (don't know what brand it was) had just bought a shiny new John Deere D the day before he was scheduled to thrash at my great-great grandpa's place. The day he bought it, he drove it to the field and left it overnight. The next day, the thrashing crew arrived, and great-great grandpa was there to help them. Only problem...they couldn't get the new D to start. The owner tried first, and wore himself out trying to start it. The whole crew, plus great-great granddad all tried, and all wore themselves out. The owner called up the Deere dealer and told them to send a mechanic out, because this brand new tractor wouldn't start. Later that day the mechanic showed up, he spun the flywheel ONCE and it popped right off and started running. The reason it wouldn't start when the others were trying? They were turning the flywheel BACKWARDS!! LOL Don't you know they felt dumb!
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 7:59pm
Farmall Cubs were sold for a pretty good while.
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Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 9:24pm
I ain't old nuff to know....ya'll carry on now
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 10:26pm
Gerald is right. The R, A, B etc were vastly different from the early to the late models. Almost nothing from an early A will fit a late A and so on.
Take a WD and a WC. Virtually every thing from a WC engine will fit into a WD engine. Same with most of the sheet metal. Even the tranny gears will swap but the WC's had softer gears than the WD or late WD. Not sure when the harder gears were put into production but they'll swap as a set.
To me the A and B Deere should have each been renamed into 3 different models. While the WC, using Deere's model designation philosophy, could have remained a WC into 1957 and never ever used the model designations WD or WD45 for that matter. That would have given the WC a 24 year production span with well over 400,000 units produced. It would have been more justifiable than the Deere model A, B or D production designations.
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 9:19am
Farmall 140's had a very long run, 1958-1979.
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 9:25am
IBWD MIke wrote:
Farmall 140's had a very long run, 1958-1979.
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Yep, you said it.
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'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 12:39pm
AC UC 1929-1953 Now some years they didn't build any, but there was a high S.N. UC at the Bedford, Iowa auction a few years back. It was an LP high crop.
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Posted By: b.burnett
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 1:02pm
Gary Burnett wrote:
Farmall Cubs were sold for a pretty good while.
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We Burnett's have to stick together! The Farmall/International Cub ran from 1947-1979 Bruce.
------------- 1955 CA, (2) SC 2-bottom plows, SC blade, and still looking.
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