5020 with serial number 1
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Topic: 5020 with serial number 1
Posted By: MarkJ
Subject: 5020 with serial number 1
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 2:56pm
| Newbie to this site so forgive me if this post is in the wrong forum. Now down to business..... My Dad has a 5020 4WD with the serial number of 1. That's right #1. Everything works great. No issues with the 4 wheel drive. Seat cushion is pretty much toast, but everything mechanical works good yet. My question is this... We are attempting to sell this fine machine and wondering if any collectors out there would pay extra because of the serial number. We would prefer to keep it to a local sale (North Iowa) and wondering if you guys/gals could offer up a suggested sale price based off the #1 serial number. |
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 3:21pm
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Anybody with a sense of value for it would probably want to see a pic of the tractor.
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Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 4:29pm
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First off let me say I have a 2WD 5020 and absolutely enjoy it! That being said I personally don't think # 1 5020 holds the same merit as a serial number 1 tractor that rolled out of West Allis. My main reasoning behind my opinion is it may be # 1 Allis but since Massey and Hinomoto sold the same tractor it would be hard to authenticate the "real" first tractor. JMHO, Eric ------------- Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 6:06pm
is the 1 up side down?
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 6:20pm
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Serial numbers started at 1001 on the 5020 in 1977 according to tractordata.com
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Posted By: alan-nj
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 8:45am
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Was FWD an option from the beginning of production? or did it come along later like the 12 speed trans...?? ------------- If ignorance is bliss, than happy days are here again. |
Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 8:57am
| It sounds like I'm getting some doubt from you guys as far as authenticity about this tractor. All I can tell you is that my Dad bought this tractor from an Allis Chalmers dealer in early 1978 with about 20 hours on it. He said the dealer used it for about a year on his own property before selling to my Dad. It has never left his acreage since then. The serial plate under the steering wheel has only the number 1 on it. The transmission housing has 00001 stamped in the housing. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 9:14am
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Gets some pics when you get a chance, of the plates too I also agree with Eric on what he says about the value not being as great as it would be if it had rolled out of West Allis. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 9:24am
Available from the beginning ------------- Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne |
alan-nj wrote:Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 9:31am
I'm not doubting the authenticity or your dad's word. It was not my intention to offend anyone and if I did I Apologize. I personally would not pay a premium for the serial number but more so because it's a 1 owner tractor ------------- Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 10:42am
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I gave $2000 for my 5020 2wd, so I guess it would be worth $2500 - $3000. Probably depending on the condition of the tin, and tires, and overall operation of the tractor.
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Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 10:52am
| I'll try to get some pics when I get a chance. We're dealing with a funeral also at the moment. Hence the reason for trying to get a fair market price for his tractor. |
Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 10:56am
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I also realize it's a Hinomoto made tractor for AC. So I understand the reasoning of lesser value since it's not a true AC. We have already taken that into account. I appreciate the feedback and input. Other than this little AC yard tractor, we grew up on green machines.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 11:00am
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If it's really nice maybe could grab closer to $4000 or even $5000. http://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/farm-equipment/for-sale/list/category/1111/tractors-less-than-40-hp?NotFound=1&Manu=ALLIS-CHALMERS&Mdltxt=5020&mdlx=Contains" rel="nofollow - http://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/farm-equipment/for-sale/list/category/1111/tractors-less-than-40-hp?NotFound=1&Manu=ALLIS-CHALMERS&Mdltxt=5020&mdlx=Contains Mind you, those are asking prices. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 11:05am
Sorry to hear that, and we won't hold that green thing against you 😉 ------------- Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne |
Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 1:02pm
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Having a hard time uploading pictures. Says the pictures have to be less than 2mb. Mine are 3mb or more. I'm trying to load off my phone, so not sure how to downsize, since I'm an old farm boy.
[edit] Never mind. I figured it out.
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Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 1:12pm
Lonn, I see you're SE Minn. I'm NE Iowa. Any chance you're near the Iowa border?
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Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 1:58pm
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Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 1:59pm
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Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 2:00pm
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Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 2:07pm
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 2:18pm
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It's a looker!
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 2:20pm
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Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 2:29pm
Osage here. So only about an hour away.
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Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 2:33pm
It's always been kept under roof except for blowing snow and running the Lawn Genie in the spring & fall. He used to do some tilling with the tiller attachment years ago when he had a garden. He probably put about 40 hours a year on it since '78.
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Posted By: LB0442
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 6:06pm
| Tractor looks great and that is very cool to have #1. Welcome to the forum. |
Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 7:59pm
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It is a nice looking tractor! Is the tiller Allis also? ------------- Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne |
Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 9:11pm
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Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2016 at 7:33am
No, all the attachments are non AC.
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Posted By: MarkJ
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2016 at 7:41am
Osage, North East Iowa
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