Sprocket liners
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Topic: Sprocket liners
Posted By: Josh H
Subject: Sprocket liners
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2016 at 6:32am
I heard pigeon products and manufacturing in garrison, north Dakota
Has them. +1 701-463-2959. Thats what I'll be doing on my machine
Although someone said some other segment will worth on 16b. He says
Make sure to time sprocket before welding liners.
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2016 at 8:42am
arnt 16B's equipped with bolt on segments?
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Posted By: Josh H
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2016 at 8:44am
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Why can't you use liners on segments. Cut them in half where the segments end
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2016 at 8:51am
You can. I just thought it was kinda silly to cast liners to weld onto replaceable segments when that is why the were designed : to bolt on new segments not have to weld on rings like the old style. why not cast it as an oem match?
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2016 at 10:38am
Liners or cups can be welded in , yet if the sprocket teeth are worn heavily I would question getting them into proper position so as to contact bushing outer surface.
Seen some attempts at repairing worn sprockets and it seems more trouble that it's worth . I built up top surface on a set of HD5 track welding first with 7018 rod and then a hard surface rod over that - I got about 2 years of life out of the job but ended up replacing sprocket as well as track - I welded on sprocket rings onto old spokes > On my D6 I welded new rings onto spokes to take D5 segmented sprockets - then the rest of machine self destructed before I could get my investment back in the tracks .
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Posted By: Josh H
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2016 at 10:05pm
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Whats the option besides used because i can't find new parts?
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 5:00am
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Conversion to what is available, finding a sprocket of similar diameter in a other make machine and converting the entire undercarriage to that machine series. Idlers can be converted, roller frames re-drilled for different mountings, sprocket ring can be replaced with a different make on the old spokes. Been done to other machines and shown on here.
I have that issue with my old 7G, it uses 7" pitch that no one else uses today, IHC did thru the Dresser machines but even they are all gone. So I have a set of spare rails I will use up and either make the attempt to convert or give the old machine up.
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Posted By: Dozer
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2016 at 6:39am
Sprocket liners # 54 C200 for (2) sprockets for my HD6G $281.50 including shipping
Pigeon Products & Mfg
PO box 187
Garrison, ND 58540
(701) 463 2959
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2016 at 7:52am
Henderson MFG in Texas has sprockets for many brands and models. they show for 16 and 16D but not 16B. might be worth a call though. these are new rings
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Posted By: Dozer
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2016 at 11:09am
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Pigeon Products & Mfg has sprocket liners for HD7G for $312.50 including shipping and for HD11 for $335.50 including shipping.
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