Tractor Theft
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Topic: Tractor Theft
Posted By: Scott B
Subject: Tractor Theft
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 4:06pm
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So we recently had some thieves hop our gate and steal 5 or so game cameras that we had set up around our home and building. Obvious they'd studied it because some were very well hidden. The good news is they didn't get all of them and we have some pics of a truck and car. While that's a problem in and of itself, started wondering how I'd go about claiming ownership on my tractors if they were stolen. It's easy to have serial numbers but if the tractor was found, it'd still be word against word on ownership. Anyone else given this any thought? I'm thinking of having a Notary come in and document serial numbers and pictures. I've got a few Bill of Sale documents but they're not all that descriptive..... ------------- D17 Series 1 Allis B- 1939 Allis B- 1945 |
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Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 4:19pm
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Never really thought about it. My insurance company has my serial numbers but don't know if that would be enough. ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: Dmpaul89
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 4:32pm
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Just use a camcorder. Go around everything looking at serial numbers, inside tool boxes, whatever. That should be good. If they are stealing tractors then its a good chance their word isnt worth crap. They probably have a record. Wont be hard to prove who it belongs to. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 4:56pm
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Ask your county sheriff for a universal ID number then engrave that along side the serial number and a couple other places. Its set up to show your county by some digits and your state and your individual ID number. Its good for tools and machinery and traceable all over the US. I also added a sign to my farm that announces everything of value has an identification number and stuff has stayed better since then. Gerald J. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 5:12pm
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It would be good to have pictures of the serial number kept in a safe place. Also sounds like a good idea to ask the local Sherriff if they have an ID number system like Gerald says.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: hillmonkey
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 5:44pm
| stamp the last four #s of you SS# or 1st six of your D/L # under the the tractor some where. maybe a flat spot on the bottom bell housing or rear end. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 6:11pm
| AND, put up 10 more cameras, and disguise 'em even better... |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 6:38pm
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to bad you can't put up a trip cord ... at the thieves door.
------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: Johnwilson_osf
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 8:23pm
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I had a slightly different experience with theft, on a smaller scale. I had two bicycles stolen when I was a teen. They weren't much, but they were my main mode of transportation. When I bought a new one, the bile store took me to the back room, and sprayed a clear coat on the bottom bracket of the bike (where the crank goes through the frame). They then had me put my finger prints in the wet paint. Sure enough, the bike was stolen, but was recovered because of the finger print. Its not much, but it works. ------------- Allis Express: Eastern PA on Rt 80 8050, 8010, 6080, 190, D14, DA 6035, AA 6690, 5650, Gleaner F2 |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 8:31pm
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Fellow had a skid steer stolen here and he was able to ID it because he had welded his SS number on the bottom of the bucket. |
Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 8:32pm
------------- D17 Series 1 Allis B- 1939 Allis B- 1945 |
Gerald J. wrote:Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 9:00pm
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inscribe your name under the valve cover. ??? dan ------------- D19 Diesel,D17 Diesel SER.3 2-D14, 2-D15 SER.II WF/NF D15 SER.2 DIESEL D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II 2-720'S D21 Ser. II Gmc,caterpillar I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger) |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 9:10pm
Great idea give a criminal your SSN ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: marion
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 9:23pm
| I mount a lot of game cameras 15 foot off ground, I guess they could shoot them. takes 2 people to change batteries and cards. also have video backup with recorder in vault.when we were at gathering in Kansas in 2000 was talking with some people and they had unhooked tractor and trailer in field where everbody was parking and somebody backed up and got both. |
Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 9:43pm
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It is usually someone you know. That's why they knew where the cams were.
And what you have.
------------- Dad always said," If you have one boy, you have a man. If you have two boys, you have two boys". "ALLIS EXPRESS" |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 10:35pm
Lol, or weld your name on the inside of the frame rails! (if so equipped)
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 10:46pm
| Never had any thing much stolen, but some one took a crap in my rv parked inside during winter. MACK |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 10:56pm
| make sure you have the the VIN#. and model/make and any personal descriptors you may have of any piece of equipment. that includes any numbers or letters or welds or bent/broken items on it. tractors are no different than cars or trucks or trailers or anything else that is stolen. pics do help, but only if/when it's found. now the minute you have found that your piece of equipment has been stolen, contact your local law agency to come do a stolen report. do not disturb the area where it was last sitting, don't touch stuff that ay have been moved getting to that piece of equipment. don't disturb tracks outside or inside of foot prints, tire tracks, finger prints, palm prints. when contacting local law...wherever the item was stolen is who you contact, not necceserly where you live! if it's stolen in the country notify that law agency, if stolen in the city notify that agency. there are different agencies for this purpose, this will save you precise time and frustrations. after a report and investigation starts, make sure you ask for the case number, this will save time for you and the law agency down the road. as soon as the report has been taken and signed, the law agency will have that item put into the national crime info computer. NCIS/NCIC. then if it's ever discovered or suspicious by law enforcement they will run that VIN# and be able to tell if it's stolen within minutes. and anytime any of you go to buy anything motorized, you should take down the VIN# and ask any law enforcement agency to run the VIN# thru the crime computer for a stolen check. this normally does not cost anything except your time/travel. but may save you a lot of money, and embarrassment of having a stolen item in your posession! personally I have helped recover one tractor off a consignment sale, and one skid loader off craigs list, and 2 trailers off word of mouth for sales, and one power tool off a garage sale. and by law, any item with ground off or missing VIN#'s are to be confisticated by law enforcement. so if you know where a serial number plate is supposed to be on anything and it's not there....report it! you can't believe how much stolen stuff is sold on auctions of all types, the thieves want a mostly safe way to make money, if it's a good running/working item they'll usually put it on some type sale, if it's a piece of equipment, they usually take it to a scrap yard. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 11:01pm
| I did forget to tell you...where ever you are from (country) that country has their own NCIC crime computer, but they can be accessed by any agency world wide. this is a wonderful tool for law enforcement and the public they serve! |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 11:02pm
| who did you torque off MACK? |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 1:35am
Actually the guy had put them on in such a way you wouldn't have known what they were and if he hadn't he wouldn't have been able to prove ownership.Anyway of someone wants your SS number they can get it easily. |
Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 6:42am
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Last 4 only is all I'd use..... Better Yet. Name and Address on a steel plate and then open up the side plate and drop it in the bottom of the tranny or some place like that.
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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 8:27am
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Personally, I wouldn't put my SS# on anything I own, BUT, I would think if you assigned a number somewhere where only YOU know where the number is hidden, is slicker than going by the VIN# of the vehicle. Everybody knows the first thing that's ground off is the VIN#. BUT, if there's another number you assigned secretly somewhere on that Tractor, to me that's a "Gotcha"!! Also as Gerald mentioned about registering it with the County Sherriff along with the serial number just closes the lid on the situation of recovering your property... ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 9:27am
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Local junk yard marks it's big items and was able to identify an item that reappeared when the thieves brought it to the yard to try and sell it. The idjits brought it to the same guy they stole it from to try and sell it back to him! Stupid is as stupid does. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 9:38am
| if you don't like how/what your county sheriff does, then contact the state police for the report...in order for anything to be done, a report has to be made and signed. |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 10:02am
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Salvage yards also mark parts so they'll know their parts if say someone buys a engine and then tries to bring back their old engine they replaced and say its the engine they bought and it wasn't any good. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 10:16am
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I was always told to use your drivers license number as any police department would have access to finding who that number belongs to. A SSN may only be available to the feds? ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Dan Hauter
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 6:20pm
| Our local sheriff recommends mounting cameras where they'll catch a license plate #. Never give away your social security # or driver's license #. Just another thing the thieves can sell or use to steal your identity. Look at a sheriff's car's license plate. Ours start with 059. That's our county code. The use your name. EX: IL059Hauter. That's easy for law enforcement to track. |