Implements for an Allis B
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Topic: Implements for an Allis B
Posted By: cjallis
Subject: Implements for an Allis B
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 7:27am
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What size of disc can a later model B Pull? The same goes for the size of a cultivator? The B can pull any size one bottom plow easily. But can it pull 2 14" plows or is that too much. I heard it can.
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 7:43am
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My B with low compression kerosene pistons (Low power engine) handles a 2-12 Oliver Plowmaster like there's nothing there! That thing pulls good! I can bury that plow and the B won't stop! I can't imagine what it'll do after I overhaul it with high compression pistons. I bet it would pull a 2-14 in ideal conditions. Just don't get carried away.
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Posted By: cjallis
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 8:50am
| Thanks. Yea that makes sense. The ground conditions play an important factor in what it can handle pulling! |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 2:42pm
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In Maryland we only used the one bottom plow. Worked very well. As to cultivators the B was made for a one row operation. In some vegetable and nursery operations we jury rigged some multiple small row units. However, I would stick with the one row. Take good care of my favorite. Good Luck! Bill Long
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Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 4:48pm
| A two row cult. was built for the C, so why couldn't a B do a two row? Basically the same tractor. And with a over bore kit it should have as much power as a C. Leon R Cmo |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 5:22pm
Wheel width could be the problem. A standard arched axle B can't be adjusted to match row width like the wide front C. A B would work better for a 3 row cultivator. Power was not the reason only a one row was made for the B. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
LeonR2013 wrote:Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 5:22pm
| I don't really understand...what all was different about a C from a B? I understand the narrow front, the different rear wheels, seat, and steering linkages, but what else? |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 5:25pm
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Dad had a 47 C for his first tractor. He had a one bottom trip plow that a blacksmith had widened to cut 18 inches. He said he could run in 2nd gear and plow way more ground in a day, than the neighbor did with his B and a 2-12 plow because the neighbor had to plow in first. Couldn't pull 2-12's in second. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 5:27pm
| Y'all must have different soil than we do! I pull 2-12 with my B in 2nd just fine! It even had low compression Kerosene pistons in it at the time! |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 5:32pm
 ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 5:34pm
Those implements might be just a little bit too big for a B to handle! 
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Posted By: cjallis
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 11:36pm
| Yep, I believe you guys have much more sandy soil than we do here in most parts of the upper midwest it is heavy loam/clay. |
Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2016 at 8:08am
A model C was for 2-row operations, as the trike front was run in between the two rows cultivating, with a rear wheel on the outside of each row being cultivated. A model B was made for 1-row cultivating, both the front and rear tires straddled the row being cultivated. Does that make sense? Other than 1-row vs. 2-row a B and a C are the same tractor, basically. (At least from the bits & pieces I have picked up here and there) ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2016 at 8:58am
I don't know how that pic got on this post. I resized it and thought I put it back on the original post??/ Oh well, I'll just leave it hoping somebody will show a B that can handle these.  ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2016 at 9:26am
Mine can't! I was wondering what that pic was doing, though..... now I know... ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |
Posted By: T.J.-N.J.
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2016 at 8:03am
| Dad's old C pulls the one bottom mounted plow off my B just fine in second gear as long as the soil has enough moisture in it, not much but enough so it slices instead of busting through it, if its to dry it's like throwing out the anchor and you get a lot of wheel slip. If you have the plow set right it can cover the ground pretty quickly if not you are in for a rough ride, a little plow like this can teach you a lot about plowing that can make setting up bigger equipment easier, and the work load on your equipment easier. Its a dying art though everyone chisel plows around here or discs heavy. I have a worksaver 3 point that I use with a Dearborn 8N size disc it pulls it fine but you need the brakes on the headlands to turn it as the front end gets light.T.J. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2016 at 8:58am
Some C's had an adjustable wide front, the seats were pretty much the same. The final drive housing was wider on the C I believe and the drawbar was on a bigger arch to bolt to the finals. Other than what you already stated, that's about it. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2016 at 9:12am
Yeah, the final drive housing on a C was wider so that the tractor could straddle two rows, instead of just one on the B ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |