1"/2" Wavy or Fluted No-Til coulters on planter?
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Topic: 1"/2" Wavy or Fluted No-Til coulters on planter?
Posted By: Meanolallis
Subject: 1"/2" Wavy or Fluted No-Til coulters on planter?
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 12:46pm
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I'm looking for advice on the "best" No-Til coulter to put on a Deutz-Allis 385 Planter. They make 1" wavy, 2" wavy, and fluted. I'm looking for a "general purpose"/all-around No-Til coulter for planting beans and corn in both No-Till and full tillage applications. Ground is a heavier, wetter clay. I think I have 1" wavy on it right now, but they need to be replaced. Looking for the pros and cons of the different coulters. I think 2" wavy may be the most popular... Thank you, Peter
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 1:17pm
| One inch "bubble" coulter is my choice, as it has a straight sharp cutting edge all the way around and throws minimal dirt out of the seed trench. The 2 inch wave coulters at faster speeds throw out a lot of dirt. |
Posted By: old farmer
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 2:14pm
| Doc has it right. |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 2:15pm
Bubble coulter... ------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 2:24pm
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The culter pictured is what we have on our 12 row Kinze and 6 row New Idea. They work well and we like them for no-till and they just go along for the ride in worked dirt. Leon B ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 2:46pm
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I prefer a flat plow coulter out front. I used it to cut stover and straw so the trash whippers could spread stuff easily and the opening disks wouldn't be hairpinning straw or stover to affect the seed placement. I don't like the supposed no till coulters with the wide waves, they too easily turn into packing and stomping rollers when the dirt is a little damp so they make a lowered packed place for the seed, just the opposite of what the seed needs. In dry dirt they probably do till up a narrow strip, but I've rarely planted in dirt that dry. Gerald J. |
Posted By: kev/ont
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 6:18pm
| We use the ones pictured above. Have no complaints with them. |
Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 10:21pm
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The #2 wavy is aggressive, planting beans after wheat is usually dry in our area of Illinois. The plan is to conserve soil moisture for seed germination, but using a reduced "flinging" coulter is definitely what you are looking for.
------------- Dad always said," If you have one boy, you have a man. If you have two boys, you have two boys". "ALLIS EXPRESS" |
Posted By: tomNE
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 10:26pm
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in NE; we move as little dirt as possible. other places might have didn't types of soil. ------------- AC from the start of my families farming career till the end! |
Posted By: wayneIA
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2016 at 1:23am
| I prefer the 1" wave, it minimizes the throwing of dirt, and the story I've heard on the bubble style is that in some soils it will cause sidewall compaction since the bubble pushes the soil to the side. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2016 at 1:46am
| X2 with Wayne |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2016 at 7:41am
| Only one I've ever used is the 2 inch, but I've really liked it. Loosens up the soil really well for good soil to seed contact. Darrel |
Posted By: Meanolallis
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 8:29pm
| Thank you all for the advice! Looks like CFC Dist. has a decent price on the 1" wavy, even though the 1" bubble sounds tempting... |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 8:50pm
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coulter type choice depends on soil type. The more clay type the fluted is best - on the loam soil the bubble works well. We stress the most important addition is the soil control strips as used by the Sunflower openers on their drills. We make our own with strips welded to the front divider and running alongside the openers. This prevents soil blow out.
------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |