just about finished!
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Topic: just about finished!
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Subject: just about finished!
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 1:57pm
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Hello guys, just wanted to share the 200 narrow front project I have been working on. It has been quite a task! Way more to take into consideration before I started! HAHA. To share a little bit about the project. I started with a factory open station late model 1974 200. I have collected the parts to make this work. The "zipper" front is out of a series 3 190xt. I interchanged the front bolster to make this happen the front pulley on and water pump needed to be changed to be as a 190xt. Simply because of the clearance and different radiator placement from a 200 to 190xt. Next the air filter housing and oil fill tube for the front needs to be relocated to work with each other. And the tricky part is getting the radiator to fit between everything! ha-ha. With the factory narrow front the oil pan gets in the way so the largest size tires that I could have on the front were 9.5l-14 tires. it sat very low in the front this way. So since the 200 sits roughly 2.5 inches higher in the front than a 190xt to begin with I made a space plate to go in between to accomplish the proper 200 front end height along with getting a little more clearance. The next issue I ran into was using an 11L-15 tire and not hitting the oil pan or a front weight so. To accomplish this I used a D19 narrow front bolster. They are the exact same height and width as the 190xt but in relation to the 190xt narrow front the axle on the pedestal sits roughly 1.25 inches further forward. With the modification of my 2 inch spacer I made this possible. Once this was done the rest of the tractor was just a standard restoration process! I did put custom steps and all LED lighting on the tractor since nothing is proper on the tractor any more already! All new gauges including installing an oil pressure gauge. I am getting a little long winded! Just wanted to share! Andy       ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 2:01pm
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WOW ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: dpower
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 2:02pm
| Looking good andy! what a project! |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 2:07pm
| That is absolutely gorgeous!! Wow! You are talented! |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 2:11pm
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Yes, WOW, that will make people scratch their head. |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 2:12pm
| You do very nice work Andy !! I'm assuming that one is for your collection. |
Posted By: BLee Mn
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 2:33pm
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Absolutely Beautiful !!!! Belongs on a calender ------------- Cowboy UP |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 2:51pm
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good looking machine!
------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: omahagreg
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 3:02pm
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PURDY! ------------- Greg Kroeker 1950 WD with wide front and Freeman trip loader |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 3:20pm
WOW.JUST SIMPLY WOW.AWESOME LOOKIN TRACTOR.IV'E ALLWAYS LOVED THE NARROW FRONT END ON THE BIGGER TRACTORS.SUPER JOB   I WANT ONE!!!CALENDAR MATERIAL FOR SURE!!!------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 3:26pm
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The correct police will have you behind bars by sundown...lol. Looks great though!!! ------------- Matt Folkers FOLKERS RESTORATION Restoring vintage things to last so the future can enjoy our past. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 3:42pm
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------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 4:03pm
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Screw the correct police, that is a beautiful tractor, I don't care what you say!
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 5:02pm
| That's amazing. Looks GREAT! |
Posted By: KY poorboy
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 5:29pm
| That is one AWESOME looking tractor!!!! I don't care what the purist have to say, it's just cool!! |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 5:46pm
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It's AWSOME Andy. ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: ryan(IN)
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 5:54pm
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If I didn't already know that 200's were never narrow front, I would not know the difference by looking at that! It looks like it came from factory that way. Very good job, it looks great!!! ------------- ryan 1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62 |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 6:00pm
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Simply gorgeous! Nice work and attention to detail.
------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 6:53pm
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SWEET WORK FIVE STAR + JOB  DAN ------------- D19 Diesel,D17 Diesel SER.3 2-D14, 2-D15 SER.II WF/NF D15 SER.2 DIESEL D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II 2-720'S D21 Ser. II Gmc,caterpillar I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger) |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 8:46pm
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last pic belongs on a calendar . ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 8:52pm
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Looks terrific! ------------- Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 8:58pm
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Great Job Andrew !!! It legitimizes my 220 XT. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: REEDE
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 8:58pm
| Had to put a bib on. That is one sharp looking 200. |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 9:11pm
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Andy, That is one GREAT LOOKING TRACTOR! Have to say I still like the narrow front ends. I know they are not in the rage now but they look good. Andy, Did I see you on Mecum's Classic Tractor Auctions. Your tractors looked great. Good Luck! Bill Long |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 9:54pm
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Even the correct police would have to be impressed with that undertaking and making it look as original as possible. The rest of the tractor has great attention to detail as well!
------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 9:54pm
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Simply Outstanding!!!! Something to drool over for sure!!!! ------------- 10 various B-series garden tractors, AC Homesteader8, 416 hydro,710 gt, 914, 916H, 917H, 920D, and many misc attachments |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 10:14pm
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Andrew, you are setting the bar very high. On here a while ago was a 6080nf and now your 200nf. That is some of the best work I have ever seen. Sounds like you had a lot of engineering to do to make it all come together. Congratulations on a job well done. High marks, top shelf, & A#1. ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 10:25pm
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WOW!! Thank you all for the response! It was a fun project to undertake that is for sure. One of a kind. It is amazing the things that were changed from the 190xt and the 200. Things that you just simply over look! I like the idea of the 220xt!!!! somehow it needs to have a power director installed! As for the mecum auction yes I was on there last November. We sold some of our ac Wheatland's. As for the 200 you will get to see it sell on mecums at the end of the month actually. I consigned it before I actually finished it and now I am really torn! I did at least place a reserve so I am comfortable with it. It is my own personal fund raiser for my wife and I as we have a little one on the way! We are very very excited! Thanks again all! Andy ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: macvette
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 12:14am
| Gosh, that thing is beautiful! |
Posted By: GARY(OH/IN)
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 2:33am
| Clean, efficient, organized, functional, what's the word I'm trying to find to describe this beauty you've built. |
Posted By: Burgie
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 5:08am
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Sweet!!! Needs to be here with it`s little brother 170NF. ------------- "Burgie" |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 6:57am
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Beeeutiful job Andy! Looks factory as Hell to me!! LOL! You do some super work man! Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 7:44am
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Just can't quit looking at it. I sure would like to see it at Hutchinson. That needs a toy made of it. 5 stars. ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 7:53am
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I think you do some of the best restorations on the One-hundred series tractors I've ever seen. Congratulations!
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Posted By: wbecker
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 8:06am
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THAT IS AWESOME!!!
------------- Allis B, IB, Low B, G, D10, JD M, 8KCAB, C152 |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 9:17am
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I agree, AWESOME!!!! GREAT job! Gonna be at Hutch? ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: btred1466
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 10:06am
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Nice looking 200 Andy. Was the Narrow Front available for the 200's or the One Ninety XT Series III Landhandlers? I prefer the Wide Fronts but that looks sharp. I like those Steps on that 200. Are those from K&M? Are they available for those tractors, or did you modify/fabricate to install them? I would like to see your restoration on a 7030 Cab Tractor and One Ninety XT Series III Landhandlers. Nice Tractors Grandpa and Uncle farmed with them. My Grandpa's 7030's Pictures are in the Heritage Iron Magazine.
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Posted By: ACFarmer
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 10:47am
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That thing is sweet!! ------------- Making a living farming with and working on Allis Equipment |
Posted By: Shawn PA
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 11:26am
| I hope to do this to my XT this spring. That 200 is just awesome !!! |
Posted By: Brian-KS
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 11:35am
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Excellent!
------------- EAT BEEF! |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 11:42am
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Good golly that thing is PURDY!!! ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 12:24pm
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Thank you all! It would not have been possible for the extras that is for sure! Little additions really make projects "POP" out! As for the steps I made them using a K and M step configuration for a 56 series IH. then custom cut and built to fit the tractor. My goal was to make the optimum tractor drive tractor. One that would get peoples attention, stand out of coarse, hard to find one of a kind, have a comfortable operators station and simply a conversation piece. I have been working towards building this tractor for the past 5 years at least so it has been fun! As for the 7030 cabbed tractor and 190xt series 3 I have a few photos I will attach for you to see what we have done. Thanks again!!! andy ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 12:33pm
a few others we have done.   I will get some of some 7000 series and more 100 series! ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 8:32pm
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Andrew, Congratulations on the new addition to the family. Hope you priced this one so you may be able to let that little one drive it someday! Just a awesome tractor! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 8:59pm
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Andrew, what is the diameter of the chrome exhaust pipe you put on the 200NF? Looks like it would be a nice size for my XT.
------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 9:38pm
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It is a 4 inch pipe. I Like curved pipes! It lets the whistle out a little bit more if you know what I mean! 4 ft tall from base to tip top. Sugarmaker... thank you for the congrats! My wife and I have been patiently waiting for an addition to the family! it is our first and we couldn't be happier! ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 9:49pm
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But will it be at Hutchinson? That is the $64,000 question. ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 9:55pm
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some other restoration projects I wanted to share. We haven't done a 7030 cab tractor. It would be fun to do one with the black front cab! Andy        ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2016 at 10:43pm
Agree! ------------- It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa, |
BLee Mn wrote:Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 5:09am
| They all look GREAT. Nice work. |
Posted By: btred1466
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 8:32pm
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Andy, Those AC's look great. Where do you still get the Allis Chalmers Oil Filters and Batteries? I love that One Ninety XT Series III LandHandler. Allis Chalmers made some Great Looking Tractors, So did IH, 06 56 66 86 Series.
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Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 9:09pm
| BEAUTIFUL !! What brand of headlights and flashers did you use? I am planning to switch some over to LED. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 11:44pm
| Awesome tractors. Are they all yours. |
Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2016 at 6:47pm
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hey where did you get the seat for your 200 im needing one, i ordered one the other day and they sent the wrong one.. thanks ------------- 2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2016 at 11:27pm
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Hello guys the seat Is from k and m. They will bolt right up. There are a couple of different types. Thanks for the comments and questions and replies everyone! Andy ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: A-C 608 ltd
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2016 at 6:34am
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Really nice job on all the tractors. The 200 looks like factory. I know btred1466 already asked but I was also wondering, where did you get the A-C oil filters and batteries. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2016 at 8:00am
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AGCO sells the filters ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2016 at 8:16am
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http://s144.photobucket.com/user/ORANGE-U-GLAD/media/2008_04130001.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s144.photobucket.com/user/ORANGE-U-GLAD/media/003-13.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  I sell the filter decals and battery decals. I try to keep them on hand for several of the most popular A-C filter numbers. They add a nice touch to the old A-C equipment. ------------- Matt Folkers FOLKERS RESTORATION Restoring vintage things to last so the future can enjoy our past. |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2016 at 10:40am
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Oldoug is the man to get the decals from. Use any oil filter you like and put them in place. Like Matt said it really makes them look nice! As for the older restorations Persian 1 we put the filter decals on from maple hunter decal. Andy ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: A-C 608 ltd
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2016 at 1:00pm
| Thanks for sharing. We've got a 7080, 7020, d14, d12, and a few lawn and gardens. The d12 is a slow restoration process. It's still in use for the farm thought. It's nice to know that you can get the decals to do a "complete" restoration. |