Allis-Chalmers Energy, LLC
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Topic: Allis-Chalmers Energy, LLC
Posted By: Dean(IA)
Subject: Allis-Chalmers Energy, LLC
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 6:28am
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I have searched the website of Archer and did not find any evidence of the use of the name and logo of Allis-Chalmers. Does anyone know what will or has been done by Archer with the name, Allis-Chalmers and the logo? Perhaps we should all get together, pool our resources and buy the name and logo?  |
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Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 6:52am
the last I knew, there is no more Allis Chalmers Energy, but there Is a pump for fire engines that still uses the AC name and logo.  ------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |
Posted By: tractorman
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 9:19am
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simplicity may have at least some control of the name and logo as they tried to market a few new ac riding tractors, within the last few years. ac energy got bought out a few years ago, but i can't remember who the buyer was , maybe somebody remembers. ------------- Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190 |
Posted By: tractorman
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 9:21am
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i said simplicity, should have been Briggs and Stratton as they now own IMP. ------------- Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190 |
Posted By: 45 turboa-
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 4:26pm
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Yes I sure would like to see some new Allis-Chalmers tractors back on the market.With enough financing I think it could be possible. ------------- turbocharged |
Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 6:05pm
Archer ------------- Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne |
tractorman wrote:Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 6:48pm
| Archer is the name of the New company here in the US, it was a merger of Allis Chalmers Energy and Seawell, Seawell is world wide and foreign owned,,, but in the US the name is Archer,, it had history of A.C. Energy a while back,, |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 8:33pm
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Delete ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 8:36pm
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I've read or been told that Agco is working on trying to get the rights to the Allis-Chalmers name. At present Agco only has the rights to Allis. That is why we never see the Allis-Chalmers name in any Agco things. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2015 at 9:48pm
| Great information to know. Although, William J. Chalmers had a bit of a dubious reputation, so hopefully it is not too expensive to obtain the rights... |
Posted By: carl
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2015 at 10:27am
| I always liked the name "Agco Allis" as it had a nice ring to it. But Agco has chosen to bury that one, why would they want to use Allis-Chalmers? |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2015 at 11:26am
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Nice lady at ITT emailed this to me:
Thank you for your email. With the ITT Corporation spin off in 2011, the AC Pump product line is carried by both ITT Corporation and Xylem Inc.
I was able to find a historical account of the Allis Chalmers pump division in Xylem’s website and provided the link.
http://www.flygtus.com/3452232.asp" rel="nofollow - |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2015 at 11:53am
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Looks like in 2014 they retired the A-C name June 17, 2014
Flygt A-C Custom Pump Operation becomes part of Xylem Water Solutions
To Our Valued Customers:
On October 31, 2011, ITT Corporation separated the company’s business into three distinct publicly traded companies as follows:
Xylem, Inc. – a stand-alone water technology corporation focused on solving the world’s most complex water-related problems.
ITT Corporation – a diversified global manufacturer of engineered industrial products and technology solutions.
ITT Excelis – a global manufacturer focused on the defense and information solutions markets.
The purpose of the separation was to enable each of these companies to focus their strategies, structure, and capital on their served markets to unlock their full market potential.
The Flygt A-C Custom Pump facility, formerly ITT A-C Custom Pump, in Pewaukee, Wisconsin was transferred to Xylem Inc. as part of this reorganization.
Flygt A-C Custom Pump has a longstanding heritage of manufacturing engineered custom pumps in the water and wastewater as well as power generation markets. Historically this is the organization that was formerly the Allis Chalmers Pump Company founded in 1901. In 1987, ITT Corporation purchased the Allis Chalmers Pump Company and renamed it ITT A-C Pump. Subsequently, in 2005 ITT transferred the Pewaukee operation (ITT A-C Custom Pump) into the Flygt organization to better align the facility to match the intended markets served.
Although we may have a new company name, Xylem Inc., our facility, employees, and product designs are the heritage of Allis Chalmers and ITT A-C Pump. Our extensive installations and references in the industry are a result of the efforts of our employees and operations. We look forward to continuing our proud tradition of manufacturing the most efficient and durable pumps in the world!
Finally, to facilitate your understanding and handling of this change we have included two attachments or visual aids.
Best regards,
James D. Peterson Director, Global Marketing & Engineering Flygt A-C Custom Pump ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2015 at 12:08pm
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Looks like the trademark on "Allis-Chalmers" ran out in 2012 http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:pwr7lv.2.9 ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2015 at 12:19pm
| still think vesatile should jump into this |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2015 at 1:25pm
| Maybe we need to see in Kinzie MFG would be interested, they make great planters etc. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 12:32pm
| Allis Chalmers Energy actually has a funny history, Allis had a small shop in Houston repairing oil drilling equipment , Houston Dynamics I think, or bought them; any way that was all AC had left , then OilQuip bought this and renamed every thing they had Allis Chalmers Energy I think for tax credits etc that came with the Allis name,so truly the AC we knew was gone |
Posted By: Dan Hauter
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2015 at 11:47am
| At the 2015 Farm Progress Show in Decatur, IL. a friend of mine was told in the AGCO display area that AGCO has nothing to do with the Allis-Chalmers name or anything else to do with Allis-Chalmers. I was there, too, and noticed that they were selling "heritage" shirts and other memorabilia with other brand names (Oliver for example) on them but nothing with Allis-Chalmers. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2015 at 12:04pm
| Agco stood ,/used to mean Allis Gleaner Company , I have ligatures and Landhandlers to prove it to me it still does |
Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2015 at 7:35pm
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Allis Chalmers Energy took off in about 2003, the year he went on a buying spree. Reportedly, a fella from the Middle East bought the name to allow the purchase of a number of companies that he put under the A-C-E umbrella so it could be sold off as he built it up during the oil/gas price run-up, and that is exactly what he did a few years back. Yup, he made a killing as he got out "at the peak". |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2015 at 8:04pm
| That makes sence,,, |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2015 at 8:04pm
| That makes sence,,, as too what happened |
Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2015 at 8:40pm
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Allis-Chalmers Energy was purchased by Seawell back in 2010. I use to stay in contact with them for prosperity sake. I did speak with A-C energy before the sale and they owned the name (A-C) and licensed it out for a fee (E,G Briggs and Stratton)to market the A-C lawn mowers. I've lost track of Seawell now. Perhaps there are some A-C energy people still there that would know. Hope that helps. Thanks. |
Posted By: tractorman
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2015 at 9:30pm
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i am thinking ACenergy may have gotten the 95 or million in tax credits that allis had when they went under. is the Allis chalmers a copyrighted name if it is there must be a way to find out who holds the copyright, if it isn't copyrighted it is possible it may be fair game . ------------- Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190 |
Posted By: tractorman
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2015 at 9:33pm
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sorry i didn't see charlies comment untilafter i posted, then is the name allis chalmers available for anybody to claim and reuse ? ------------- Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190 |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2015 at 11:05pm
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Does anyone know a copyright lawyer? This is confusing to us but to someone who deals with this every day, probably simple. I suspect all the copyright info is available online but I don't know where to start. Sure would be wonderful to the see the AC logo on tractors and machinery again. I wonder what AGCO corporate thinks about all this. I can't believe that they wouldn't want control of the AC brand, even if they don't want to use it right now.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2015 at 5:16am
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I would doubt very much if you will ever see the Allis-Chalmers name used on farm equipment or tractors again. We may see some new toys from Spec-Cast and a few other things. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2015 at 5:33am
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What is odd is that there is still a trademark on the name for Toys. The one for ag equipment expired
------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2015 at 5:36am
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This one is expired
------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2015 at 5:41am
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AGCO Allis is expired also
------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2015 at 5:43am
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But Old Allis News is still current as an example
------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2015 at 12:07pm
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Some food for thought: http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/can-i-register-an-expired-trademark--1220340.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/can-i-register-an-expired-trademark--1220340.html ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2015 at 7:33pm
| One time when I had A-C energy on the phone, I inquired about toys. They had the Spec Cast toy information right at there finger tips. Where to order, what was available etc. The magnetic white board with the old A-C factory in the background is priceless. |
Posted By: tractorman
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2015 at 8:16pm
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so what does it mean , are the registrations dead or not ? ------------- Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190 |