WC Tie Down Ideas Please!
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Topic: WC Tie Down Ideas Please!
Posted By: KenBWisc
Subject: WC Tie Down Ideas Please!
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 7:58am
Before I paint I want to be a bit more pleased with my tie downs on my WC. Not sure I shouldn't go with I-bolts and place them behind the tires versus in front. What say yous guys?  ------------- '34 WC #629, '49 G, '49 B, '49 WD, '62 D-19, '38 All Crop 60 and still hunting! |
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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 8:22am
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We haul our car on my tractor hauling trailer. Because cars have springs I find it is much better to just lasso the wheels with tie down straps. So now I do the same with my tractors. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: Tom IA
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 8:32am
| I put eye bolts in the front motor mount holes ,have never had a problem |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 9:58am
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On a tractor with good paint, I use http://www.harborfreight.com/6-ft-6400-lb-capacity-lifting-sling-61233.html" rel="nofollow - these inexpensive straps from Harbor Freight. If the trailer is short, I put one between the front wheels and chain towards the back. I put another around the drawbar and chain towards the front (all chains underneath the tractor). On a longer trailer, I still put the strap between the front wheels, but I turn them to the front of the tractor (It works for towing, too.) and a clevis in the drawbar with it chained to the rear. The straps are a lot more forgiving than chains! |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 10:11am
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I used a chain hook on the angle iron cross member for the front engine support. Just reach up under the back of the angle hook the hook over the top lip, slid it up to the frame rail, and then angle the chain forward and down to the trailer pocket with a binder on both side. If it did scratch the paint its up under the tractor where it is not seen. I was going to add something for tie down also but didnt like the idea of the extra appendage. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 10:20am
| With a hand crank it might be harder to do but I was thinking of putting a 2 inch receiver on the front of my farmall h when I restore it. The tricycle front end with a hitch is just soo handy for backing a trailer up. It would also double as a tie down point. |
Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 10:34am
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When I haul a tractor the order of importance for tie downs is A- Secure load, B-Passing inspection, C-Protect paint. Others differ. Personally I am with Chris, extra tie down hooks etc are just a non OEM part that still has the paint knocked off of it from the chains. I am not sure that straps will cut the mustard with DOT? I have heard both ways. The hauler we use at my company says no way Jay! straps will not pass a DOT inspection. We tie the back end of the WC down using the drawbar bale to cross chain. The front end we tie down by either hooking a chain under the frame rail as Chris described or we have looped a long chain behind the pedestal and over the tires with binders on both sides. Neither is technically legal but it is secure and looks legal for "drive by" DOT inspections. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 10:59am
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I use eye bolts. On the WD I put 2 eye bolts on the front cross member ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 11:20am
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The tied down should be 4 point and securing device strong enough in rating to hold the weight of the load . Straps will work IF rated as tie-downs - look at the strap load binders on flatbeds where a end is secured into winch device on edge of flatbed . HF straps (2") I used for securing pipe onto trailers or in dump box but not for hauling equipment . There DOT rated chain is used with proper chain binder . Rather than the slip hooks shown in picture - use a grab hook to secure chain into it . Lat week just down the road from here a guy lost the trailer off his 3/4 ton PU while hauling a larger skid steer , machine and trailer in ditch - machine still partially attached to trailer but both laying on side - well skid loader was fully horizontal to ground with chain hanging from it . ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 2:42pm
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I know we are getting off the original subject of this thread, but the requirement of four point tie downs are for equipment weighing over 10,000 lbs. Loads under 10,000 lbs. require two tie downs. Straps are acceptable tie downs, as long as they have a rating to meet the load. https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/cargo-securement/drivers-handbook-cargo-securement-chapter-9-automobiles-light-trucks" rel="nofollow - Here is a very good link to the US Department of Transportation's Drivers Handbook for Cargo Securement. Chapters 9 & 10 talk about securing equipment. Chapters 1 & 2 have great general information about securing cargo and acceptable tiedowns. Appendix A has info about Working Load Limits (WLLs) of different tiedowns. |
Posted By: ksbowhunter
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 3:23pm
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Here is an idea also http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allis-Chalmers-WD-WD45-tractor-AC-front-tow-tie-down-frame-bracket-/321878035026?hash=item4af16d0a52" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allis-Chalmers-WD-WD45-tractor-AC-front-tow-tie-down-frame-bracket-/321878035026?hash=item4af16d0a52 ------------- 2-37 WC 37 wf127 37 wf130 |
Posted By: KenBWisc
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 11:28am
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Thanks to all!
------------- '34 WC #629, '49 G, '49 B, '49 WD, '62 D-19, '38 All Crop 60 and still hunting! |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 1:44pm
It says 2 tie downs at front and rear. I take that to mean a total od 4 tie downs. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
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