How hard is it to spin B hubs when jacked up?
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Topic: How hard is it to spin B hubs when jacked up?
Posted By: skeeters65
Subject: How hard is it to spin B hubs when jacked up?
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2015 at 5:52pm
Hey guys I got my B on jack stands with the wheels off.
If I try to turn the hubs by hand they are pretty tough to turn. Seems too hard but I don't know.
Yes it's in neutral.
Is this normal?
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Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2015 at 5:58pm
I guess I should add this.
I had the 4 nuts off of one of the final drives and it was slid almost all the way off the studs when the tractor fell off the jack stands. It fell about 1 foot with the hubs landing on the cement floor.
So I'm worried the shaft may have bent. If that's possible.
But I'm just not sure how smooth they are supposed to spin.
Thanks
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2015 at 6:05pm
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YOU trying to spin them is prolly what knocked it off the stands! DON'T DO THAT! doubt very much they are bent! whew! i'm sure they'll turn plenty hard by hand!
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2015 at 6:07pm
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oh....and throw away those jack stand killers....use big blocks of wood that cover some area! those stands do NOT have a wide enough base on them to be safe!
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Posted By: Steve79
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2015 at 6:19pm
With the wheels and centers off its quite/very hard to turn the works by hand grabbing the lung nuts. I stuck a dowel in there to turn to align them to put the wheel back on.
2nd on using cribbing instead of jack stands.
I guess finish removing the final drive, turn hub, and watch the shaft to see if it's bent.
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Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2015 at 6:26pm
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The wheel centers are on there.
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Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2015 at 6:48pm
They can be hard to turn by hand. I doubt you hurt anything. I usually use a tire iron to spin the hub.
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Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2015 at 7:33pm
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They don't turn all that easy with the tires on. Where did you have the jack stands? I use them under the drawbar.
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Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2015 at 2:38am
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I was actually repositioning the jack stands when it happened. So it was technically just on the Jack. The stands are now under the foot rest bar.
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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2015 at 3:09am
Unless you have had the foot rest bar out and know it is solid don't trust it. Sometimes rust will weaken then. Use cribbing if at all possible.
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Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God.
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Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2015 at 6:36am
Thanks for the info guys.
I will get some big wood blocks!!
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Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2015 at 8:29pm
Ok guys I decided to pull the final drive off to inspect it.
YUP ITS BENT!!!
Now what.
Anyone got a final drive shaft that goes into the transmission??
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2015 at 8:40pm
Yikes! Just glad you were not hurt when the tractor fell!
Someone should have the parts you need to get it back in good working order.
Regards,
Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2015 at 9:25pm
I hope so.
Supposed to be driving this thing for Halloween!!
Anyone got one?
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2015 at 10:20pm
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I think the part number of the shaft you need is 213487 With the 14 tooth pinion. I have several B final drives lying around. I don't know if I get a shaft out of one, will it get to you in time for Halloween
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Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2015 at 1:29am
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Go onto the Yesterdays Tractor site, classified photo ads under Allis Chalmers; Paul in Wentzville, MO usually has plenty of B, C and CA parts as he parts them all out and plenty of rear finals should be listed.
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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2015 at 6:24am
I use Jack stands to hold my Tractors up, but like Dick L. I set em' up under the draw bar, or if there's room on the rear end housing without any interference, I'll prop em' there. Just depends what area of the Tractor I'm working on and what type of work I'm doing on it. BTW, the stands I use are 5 ton and 10 ton stands. You can just about pick em' up! They are heavy dudes, and set up on a Concrete floor keeps things nice n' stable. I wouldn't trust that foot rest bar either. They rust from the inside out and you can't tell what kinda shape they're in.
Steve@B&B
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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2015 at 7:21am
I use a set of 12 ton jack stands, wide and safe.
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1957 WD45 dad's first AC
1968 one-seventy
1956 F40 Ferguson
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