Anyone put a small bock Chevy in a B?
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Topic: Anyone put a small bock Chevy in a B?
Posted By: skeeters65
Subject: Anyone put a small bock Chevy in a B?
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 1:29pm
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Is this possible? Anyone got some pics or any info on a conversion kit? Thanks |
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 3:36pm
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Anything is possible (except getting 97 cat converters for my F150). There have been a few pictures here years ago. All it takes is money . Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Jeff(WD45-SATX-TN)
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 3:51pm
Close as I have gotten, only blown big block! ------------- 1954 WD45 NF "Iron Tater" |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 4:05pm
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There was one in a 'B' at the GOTO in Hickory Corners more than a few years ago.
Same guy also had a Small block Chevy in a 'G' mounted in front where the cultivators would have been. Frame was made higher to clear the engine. Owner used to build race cars. G with a rear mounted Olds 350 at the Portland GOTO in 08. Notice my tag line! ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 6:42pm
| Well you won't need any front wheel weights when you are done. I always wanted to put a 3 cylinder diesel into my farmall H but since the block is still good I would probably just go with the rebuild of my motor. I always like the look of an old flat head ford crammed into classic tractors looks more period correct of a hot rod can be correct. I did also consider upgrading my farmall to a gas in line 6. Those look really cool in small tractors to me because it is like a smaller version of the 100hp diesel tractors from the 70s and 80s. |
Posted By: marion
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 7:22pm
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have 340 buick in 38 B always thought a straight 8 would be cool in a 45 frame |
Posted By: norm[ind]
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 7:54pm
| i haavvve a straight8 on a wagon weighs 8600 [1290 cu.in,] hard to move it also runs |
Posted By: bluewavecaptain
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 8:12pm
Anything is possible... Not my tractor. Picture taken in Union Grove, WI last year. ------------- Charles(Two Rivers,WI) |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 8:58pm
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just money and time and the desire!!! GOTO in Fla 2000 http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Joecdeere/media/Gathering%20of%20the%20Orange%20South%20220_zpsm9burxpg.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  2008 portland GOTO http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Joecdeere/media/portland%20174_zpshjhph3ad.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 10:13pm
| I gots a Chevy 6 cyl ina WD |
Posted By: NickH
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 11:18pm
------------- "Allis Express" Northern Utah |
SHAMELESS wrote:Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 11:24pm
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If you want to hot rod a B, why not use something different than the small block chevy? That's been done to everything. Suggestions include a chevy big block, a Ford 289/351, or (my favorite in an old tractor) a Ford flathead V8. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 12:20am
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One of the guys in our club shoehorned a Mitsubishi diesel into a Farmall H! It's really a cute conversion, and he drives in our parades and has brought it to plow-days a coupla times! It's a purty outfit with Clearcote on it! ------------- You don't really have to be smart if you know who is! |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 4:20am
| Nick..i went out and gots a poloroid pic of it! so I gots proof now! |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 6:53am
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Shameless settled that ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 7:00am
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I always thought that a 292 Chevy inline 6 would be a nice install in a WC or WD/WD45 chassis. I have a spare Mercruizer 140HP inline Chevy 4 cylinder that I wanted to toss in my WC some day. The ole WC is just sittin' there wit' no engine in it. Was thinking on coupling an old 3 speed or 4 speed Saginaw Tranny behind it and coupling it to the rear. Maybe after I retire, I can start that project. Can't get much of anything done right now. This working for a living crap is for the birds man! LOL! Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 7:32am
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Nick..i went out and gots a poloroid pic of it! so I gots proof now! Yep,,,you gotta get up awful early to get one up on this guy,,,,,!!! 
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 7:43am
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re: . Maybe after I retire, I can start that project. Can't get much of
anything done right now. This working for a living crap is for the birds
man! LOL! yeah, think you're busy now ? Wait itl you 'retire'. Then EVERYONE will figure YOU have time to do THEIR projects for THEM, free of course, after all you're retired ,don't need any cash for your labour !! Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 8:26am
| my WD with that Chev motor has 2 AC trannys behind it! why? dunno! |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 8:29am
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You make retirement sound alot like farming. Every one thinks since you don't go to a job site everyday you can take time to help them and somehow they never can come and "return" the favor by helping you. I love the times people tell me well I would have come to help if I knew when you needed help. Hello I am working on a farm alone everyday just come by anytime and there will be something you can help with. Oh and don't get me started about money for work if I figured that out I would be very depressed. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 8:39am
| SHAMELESS I would love to see that. I have a WW II 1930 something I think Chevy military 1.5 ton 4 wd truck that I have debated pulling the straight 6 out of and upgrading it to a Cummins that truck could really use more power. That would give me a nice running straight 6 to use for a project tractor. I would really like to put it into a d serries to have live power when I am done. Not that my d17 is under powered just that it would be cool to salvage a different tractor without a motor. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 8:53am
| man...a Cummins in that truck would be awesum! the old dude that did this conversion did a wonderful job! it looks almost like factory. it needs a little TLC cuz I have it sitting outside right now, hopefully I can get to it this winter! |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 10:22am
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After you retire you will have so much to do you won't get to it. I am busier now than when I was working. Tom
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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 11:37am
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Funny you guys mention that. My brother retired last year. Says he can't figure out where he found the time to do things when he was working! I'll still be doing stuff for people, it just won't be for nuthin' though I can tell ya that! I'll also be cuttin' way back on that to, so I can play like some of ya'll... ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 11:43am
It is called Pry-orit-teees. Ya pry out time for what is important to you at the time. Sometimes it is not in the most profitable order. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 2:10pm
| yep...I been busy too...and was just thinking last night what Tom and Steve just said! whew! seems i'm still behind on bouts everything still! |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 2:21pm
I want a 3 cylinder Perkins to put in my OC46 track loader but haven't found a running engine I can afford. Converting the OC46 will be WAY easier cause there is a drive shaft between the bell housing and the tranny. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: NickH
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 8:08pm
------------- "Allis Express" Northern Utah |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 10:37pm
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Well now,,,Nick,,,ole Shameless AIN'T 'agonna do that even if I was to mail him a self addressed,, postage paid envelope so all he has to do is drop that poloroid into the self addressed, postage paid envelop,,,,and then,,,,,,,,,all he has to do is call Les and Les will haul ashes from across the river and take it to closest post office,,,,, Anybody wanna bet we can get er done,,,,???
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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 10:44pm
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By the way,,Shameless,,,,I would really,,,I mean really want to see a pic of this mysterious tractor,,,you must have it in a shed or under a tree cause I ain't fount it on GoogleEarth yet,,,,  Gosh,,that thing must be a couple of blocks long cause them Chevy 6's are bout a yard long there selves,,,then TWO transmissions,,,dang,,,how do you remember which gear you in,,,??? |
Posted By: NickH
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 11:02pm
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Its worth a try Joe ------------- "Allis Express" Northern Utah |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 12:52am
| Joe won't gimme his addy! and yes Joe...it does show up on Google earth...right out in the open! right next to the combine! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 9:21am
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Hmmmm,,,I looked at the three places up around Blair and the one by Herman,,,,,,OH,,wait,,,let me take a closer look here,,,,, |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 10:15am
| puts yer specs on! |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 10:43am
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Why put a Wisconsin in it ,then u would have a B that no one else done .LOL ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 4:55pm
| I am pre sure that would devalue the B even if it had a blown motor to start with. Those motors in our skid steers didn't last long enough to drive across the barn. |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 10:07pm
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,Joe won't gimme his addy! OK,,,Shameless,,,,here is the way it is,,,,,,,,, I'll show you mine,,,,,,IF you show me your's,,,,,,,,, 
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Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 10:37pm
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Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 10:40pm
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Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 10:46pm
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 10:53pm
| Joe.you told everyone ya already had my location! uh...were you "lying" ! oh...my! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 11:33pm
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Wait a minute,,Shameless,,,I need to check out this serious stuff in Fasstman's shop,,,WOW,,I see a 55 Chevy grill,,,a SBC with a BDS blower, that I WANT,,,, and a B with another SBC,,,looks like a custom home made adapter,,,,tell us some more Fasstman,,,,!!!!!! Wha'cha wanna trade for the BDS,,,???  WOW,,,check out that lowering job with the reversed spindles,,,,, TOO COOl,,,,!! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 11:40pm
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Naw,,Shameless,,,I NEVER told nobody where you live,,,I been burnin up Google Earth tryin to find that "chevy-Allis you say is out in the open,,,but I ain't fount it yet,,,,!! you can go ahead and tell me tho,,,cause,,,,cause it may be a bit 'fore I travel up there, although I would love to go to Thad's big BBQ and pull my smoker along,,,,,,,just for kicks,,,,along with my secret stash of Apple and Pecan smoke wood,,,,, |
Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2015 at 1:25am
Heres a Ferguson I built with a 50 merc flathead
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Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2015 at 1:29am
| I have a toy and project problem. I have way to many of each. |
Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2015 at 1:32pm
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Ya'll got me droolin! Anybody got any plans/drawings for this stuff? How'd ya do the clutch? |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2015 at 2:18pm
| Wow nice flathead setup. I always like the look of those just reminds me that people did amazing things with what little they had in the past. I often amazed at what you can do when you put your mind to it and how well the old tractors where built if you did that to a modern sub 50 hp tractor it would break in two before you started the the motor. Thanks for sharing these are soo cool. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2015 at 3:22pm
| yep....Joe...I just re-checked on Google earth....and that tractor is still sitting out by the combine! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2015 at 5:09pm
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Shameless,,,Shameless,,,Shameless,,,,,,now you just don't realize how high up on the peckin order I would get if'n was I to figure out where that dang Chevy-Allis lives,,,,cause,,,,cause that would be where you at,,,right,,,,?? Gosh,,,I'm still tryin to talley up the number of Franklins I could par-lay that little bit of info into,,,,, By the way,,,I believe that was ole Ozarks that said he had found your spread,,,,,I'm having a lot more fun just huntin and lookin,,,,, AND,,,by the OTHER way,,,when I DO find your secret hidy-hole,,,,I won't tell NOBODY,,,,OK,?? but if they offer me some Ice Cold Black Label,,,I might want to kinda nod my head in the general direction,,,,,
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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2015 at 6:04pm
There is only value in what ever its worth to u . ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2015 at 6:55pm
| Fred for the record I was only referring to the Wisconsin motors. I don't know how many of those gas 4 cylinder motors we blew in ford skid steers but I know we never blew an isuzu motor in the John deere we replaced it with. I think these project tractors are really cool. |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2015 at 9:35pm
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Hey Fasstman,,,you ain't tole me bout that 55 chevy grill,,,,?? and you might as well fill us in on the 84? square body (looks like it has a chopped top?) What are yer plans for the BDS and manifold,,??
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Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2015 at 10:16pm
| The grill is for one of the three 55's cars I own. The truck is a 81 lowered and chopped short box step side project. The blower is for what ever I want to put it in. You guys have not seen hardly any of my toys or projects yet. |
Posted By: allis in the ozarks
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 12:06am
it looks like gi joe aint to good of a hunter! cant even find ole shameless... at least i knows what he looks like... ------------- allis: wd, 180, 190xt, 200, 210 "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability" Ron White "Go ahead, make my day" Clint Eastwood |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 2:43am
| Fasstman...takes a few shots around...show us what we can drool over! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 5:51am
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Yeah,,Fasstman,,,ditto on what Shameless just said,,,, We would LOVE to see some pics of your projects,,,,but don't pay no 'tention to ole Shameless bout wantin some pics,,,cause,,,,cause he's the world's worst bout showing us HIS "stuff" but I think I got his number, tho,,, He's just SO secretive, that guy,,, Fill us in on what/how you married the SBC to the Allis tranny,,,I see a peek of a custom adapter plate, but what did you do on the clutch/pressure plate,,,?? Lot'sa dudes here wantin to know,,,,,OK,,?? Fact is what got me started on Ac's was, I bought a D14 Industrial Backhoe/Loader with a bad engine, and I acquired a D17 engine out of a very, very low hour demo combine that I wanted to stick in the D14,,,but I received more negative comments bout doing that than you would believe, so I am really likin this thread,,,so,,,give it up, guy,,,OK,,,????
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Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 6:00am
| When you put the d17 engine onto the d14 tractor did it just bolt up or did you need an adaptor? I have a spare d15 industrial from the transmission back and have wondered if it would only bolt up to the d14 and d15 or if it would match a d17. |
Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 7:55am
| Fasstman please show us some more pictures!!! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 8:48am
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Hey Dan,,,I have NOT YET done the trick with the D17 (226) engine,,,it's on my Hi Priority wish list. I recently bought a 149 from a member that is being moved from eastern Illinois to New Mexico by the great members of the Allis Express,,,yea,,!! Hopin to get it home in mid August,,,!! Gotta finish my D15 LPG II first,,,, The engineer in me says it can be done as I did get a copy of an "adapter" from another member to marry the 226 to the 149 tranny/bellhousing. Just gotta get the 226 here to figure out which flywheel/pressure plate/clutch to go with. I'm thinkin using the 149 flywheel on the 226 (with the appropriate machine work) cause from preliminary research, the 226 flywheel won't fit inside the 149 bellhousing,,,?? Ole Fasstman is a great example of shade tree ingenuity that you saw in most farmers that learned to "make do" with what was available,,,!!! YEA,,!!
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Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 10:36am
Here are some pics of brakes on lowered b 
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Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 10:44am
A v8 pic in a b W/gov setup. There is a 3/4" plate to mount engine to torque tube. A spacer between crank and stock b flywheel. The b flywheel is drilled to chevy bolt pattern. It uses the stock b clutch and pressure plate. I had to redo the radiator w/bigger inlet on top and move the lower hose fitting to the opposite side and enlarge.
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Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 10:53am
A shed pic. There is a lot more toys and projects. Front row 64 chevy short box, 57 Thunderbird. Middle row 90 Jaguar XJS convert, 61 Olds starfire convert, 40 Hudson coupe streetrod, 53 Ferguson w/flathead v8. Back row 77 chevy short box 4x4 dually custom, 56 chevy short box stepside chopped lowrider, 39 chevy coupe streetrod chopped, 81 chevy short box stepside chopped lowrider. This is just a few.
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Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 11:13am
| Wow that is a big shed. Sounds like alot of hours spent on some really nice projects. |
Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 11:27am
| Yes way to many projects. I want to get rid of some toys and projects. I can't list everything on this post. This post is for V8 b info. I might start on in the shop section. |
Posted By: skeeters65
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 3:07pm
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Fasstman Thanks for posting the brakes picture. Where did the other few pics go of the 2 lowered tractors? |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 6:30pm
He DIDN'T, and no it won't just bolt up. The way to do it, is just like described for the small block. Make an adapter plat that will let you marry the 226 to the 14 bellhousing. Measure how far back you need to move the flywheel so the starter and everything else will still work. Alter the 14 flywheel to bolt to the 226 and space it back into the original position in the 14 bell housing. Then go play  ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 9:07pm
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MR. Charlie Tucker,,,,Thank you,,,thank you,,,thank you,,,!!!! While I DO have a 149 coming,, I have no clue what it is going to take to put a spark in it. So, I am goin to pick up the 226 and check it out as well and see which is the easiest repair. The 226 was in a demo combine and is very low hours and was pulled and been in storage since. The owner says it not stuck as he would roll it 2-3 times a year,,so it might be a keeper,,!! I'm sure glad you chimed in bout the spacer to locate the flywheel,,,cause I had always been leaning to putting the 226 in that D14,,,and now I;m getting excited all over again,,,,,!!!!
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