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Obama Tried To RAILROAD Trump On Immigration
Posted by Sean Robertson | Jun 14, 2019 | Politics

It’s amazing how polarizing the subject of illegal immigration can be.
This hot-button issue has drawn a line in the sand and forced people to pick a side. If you’re a Democrat, you’re fine with illegal immigration. If you’re a Republican, you’re against it.
The fundamental difference comes down to whether you believe that illegal immigrants put American citizens in danger – both physically and financially.
But the facts are hard to deny…
Physically, there has been a surge in crimes – many including violence and murder – perpetrated by illegal immigrants. One simple Google search will provide you with some surprising, yet scary, results.
Financially, illegals can hurt American citizens by using much-needed funding that should be set aside for our own people – not another country’s poor.
Not to mention those jobs that often go to illegal immigrants instead of an American. All told, it becomes abundantly clear why SOMETHING needs to be done to stop the flood of what is reported to be more than a million people a year coming into the US illegally.
Conservatives WANT Immigrants to Come to the US… LEGALLY!
Now…
Just like Trump says – there are some VERY good people coming across the border as well. People who aren’t looking to cause trouble and just want a chance at a better life.
We understand that things in their home countries aren’t ideal – and we don’t mind if they immigrate to our great nation. After all, we have plenty of room! However, the ONLY thing we ask is that they do so LEGALLY.
It’s only fair that they get vetted and show that they can be a value to our society…
Almost EVERY other immigrant that comes from another country that isn’t a part of the American continents has to do exactly that. Proximity to the US shouldn’t give someone the right to skip the line.
Trump has said the same thing, many times…

Yet the Left STILL views him as anti-immigrant. He’s not. He wants immigrants to come here – LEGALLY.
This isn’t a new view…
OTHER presidents have often said the same thing. With one of the most ardent supporters for immigration reform being the Left’s chosen Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama.
Obama Did WHAT?!
Yes, THAT Obama. An argument could be made that he was even TOUGHER on illegal immigrants than Trump has been. After all, he deported more illegals than Trump has in the same amount of time in office…
Yet the Left still calls Trump the “anti-immigration president”.
That’s probably because of the fact that Obama had his staff DELETE all of his immigration crisis speeches just HOURS before Trump’s inauguration.
Yes, in the very twilight of his time in the Oval Office, Obama had his staffers at Immigration and Customs Enforcement removed literally HUNDREDS of his speeches—some dating as far back as
2004— from their website.
Why do you think that is?
Is it because he wanted to get out in front of something he knew was going to be a hot-button issue for Trump?
He wanted to make himself look better than Trump in some way, even when some of the remarks he’s made have been WAY worse.
According to a watchdog group, The Sunlight Foundation, the transcripts were full of “prepared remarks submitted to congressional committees, often on controversial topics like the standard of medical treatment for detainees, treatment of unaccompanied children, sanctuary cities, drug trafficking, and E-Verify.”
The group also says that all of the references to these speeches were taken down between the early afternoon of January 18th and late into the evening of January 19th – stopping just a few hours before our current president was inaugurated.
What would you say this was?
Just a cleaning up of the office?
Getting rid of clutter, if you will?
Or was it a concerted effort to erase Obama’s REAL stance on illegal immigration?
What was he afraid of?
Is appearing to have the same viewpoint as Trump really THAT much of a problem?
It makes you wonder…
If Obama was sneaky enough to hide something as benign as speeches and transcripts on immigration…
What would he do to information that could REALLY get him in hot water – like his knowledge of Russian election interference?
Who knows?
Either way, gut instinct says AG Barr will get to the bottom of it…

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We don't need illegal or legal immigration for a long time. The work participation rate is still historically low.
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I've always said that immigration in ALL forms should be tied to the unemployment rate. NO one gets in for ANY reason if the unemployemt rate is say 3% or MORE.
If people are 'unemployed' that means there's NO jobs, so the working stiffs have to pay for food,shelter,drugs,phones, etc. for those unemployed.
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Want to get everyone working???? STOP ALL the FREE CHEESE programs !
 
BINGO.......... stop IMMIGRATION, and STOP THE CHEESE......... plenty of workers here.
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

I've always said that immigration in ALL forms should be tied to the unemployment rate. NO one gets in for ANY reason if the unemployemt rate is say 3% or MORE.
If people are 'unemployed' that means there's NO jobs, so the working stiffs have to pay for food,shelter,drugs,phones, etc. for those unemployed.
Want to get everyone working???? STOP ALL the FREE CHEESE programs !


Jay, back when we actually had a workable, enforced immigration policy, that was one of the considerations! another was ethnic proportions, in other words we didn't immigrate from one specific country or region only!

And, BTW, for anybody that may care, we also have a significant illegal immigration problem with Chinese sneeking in on the west coast. From what I have read, predominantly north west
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This is no joke, the Chinese know they look alike and sell their identity to other Chinese after they get here. That is a fact.

I don't think we need anymore immigration at all even when unemployment is low. If you look at history, our forefathers mainly wanted immigration, Western European immigrants mind you, to fill up an otherwise empty country for the purpose of national defense. The western United States was basically empty except for nomadic Indians which the US had been at war with basically since the Revolutionary War. They were afraid that the French, or you name the country, could easily take the Louisiana Territory because it was virtually empty. OK mission accomplished about 125 years ago!
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“Obama had his staffers at Immigration and Customs Enforcement removed literally HUNDREDS of his speeches—some dating as far back as 2004— from their website.”

Pretty sure that Obama wasn’t President in 2004.

Here is an archive of ICE reports, speeches and testimony.   Please tell me what is missing:

https://www.ice.gov/archive


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Pretty sure that Obama wasn’t President in 2004.
 
NO, he was a US SENATOR from ILLINOIS.... and he is probably ashamed of some of the things he said in 2004- 2008
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[QUOTE=TramwayGuy] “Obama had his staffers at Immigration and Customs Enforcement removed literally HUNDREDS of his speeches—some dating as far back as 2004— from their website.”

Pretty sure that Obama wasn’t President in 2004.

Here is an archive of ICE reports, speeches and testimony.   Please tell me what is missing:

https://www.ice.gov/archive


I didn't open up all of them, but did you find any of Obama's speeches on immigration in those in those? Please enlighten us.
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The original poster is misleading you. There were not hundreds of Obama’s speeches on the site.

“the last hours of the Obama administration’s time in office, staffers at Immigration and Customs Enforcement removed hundreds of speeches and testimonies dating back to 2004 from the agency’s website, according to a watchdog group.

The transcripts contained “prepared remarks submitted to congressional committees, often on controversial topics like the standard of medical treatment for detainees, treatment of unaccompanied children, sanctuary cities, drug trafficking, and E-Verify,” according to the Sunlight Foundation’s Web Integrity Project. The group says they were removed between the early afternoon of January 18 and late evening of January 19 in 2017, mere hours before the inauguration of Donald Trump.

“With a couple of clicks of a mouse, access to a federal government web resource containing 12 years of primary source materials on ICE’s history was lost,” notes the group in a blog post.

Given the heated coverage of the immigration crisis at the Mexican border, it’s notable that the scrubbed speeches included testimony from Thomas Homan, then executive assistant director of enforcement and removal operations who was appointed acting director of ICE by President Trump soon after his inauguration.”

Testimony. Not speeches. I don’t think that Obama made ‘hundreds’ of speeches in his lifetime. Certainly when he was campaigning, he would have made lots, but they would have been pretty much the same speech every time, with a few words changed here and there; just like every politician does. Including Trump.

I contend that they were moved to the ‘archive’ section; and not permanently deleted.

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Well, I contend you are only making a guess. My question remains. Where are the ones Obama made?
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

The original poster is misleading you. There were not hundreds of Obama’s speeches on the site.

“the last hours of the Obama administration’s time in office, staffers at Immigration and Customs Enforcement removed hundreds of speeches and testimonies dating back to 2004 from the agency’s website, according to a watchdog group.

The transcripts contained “prepared remarks submitted to congressional committees, often on controversial topics like the standard of medical treatment for detainees, treatment of unaccompanied children, sanctuary cities, drug trafficking, and E-Verify,” according to the Sunlight Foundation’s Web Integrity Project. The group says they were removed between the early afternoon of January 18 and late evening of January 19 in 2017, mere hours before the inauguration of Donald Trump.

“With a couple of clicks of a mouse, access to a federal government web resource containing 12 years of primary source materials on ICE’s history was lost,” notes the group in a blog post.

Given the heated coverage of the immigration crisis at the Mexican border, it’s notable that the scrubbed speeches included testimony from Thomas Homan, then executive assistant director of enforcement and removal operations who was appointed acting director of ICE by President Trump soon after his inauguration.”

Testimony. Not speeches. I don’t think that Obama made ‘hundreds’ of speeches in his lifetime. Certainly when he was campaigning, he would have made lots, but they would have been pretty much the same speech every time, with a few words changed here and there; just like every politician does. Including Trump.

I contend that they were moved to the ‘archive’ section; and not permanently deleted.

As usual, tranny, Bob provided his source, you gave us your feelings.  You LOSE!Wink
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Since somebody asked, here is where you can find them (and there are several hundred, I stand corrected):

https://www.americanrhetoric.com/barackobamaspeeches.htm
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GEES.... that boy sure liked to TALK... Too bad he never said anything !
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