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    Posted: 10 Feb 2019 at 12:29pm
Democrats in Washington have gone off the high-speed rails, and Maine’s Congresswoman Chellie Pingree is helping drive the train.

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez’s ‘Green New Deal’ is a breathtaking...ly terrible economic and social policy, and Chellie Pingree is an early adopter of this headfirst dive into the socialist abyss.

Rep. Jared Golden has been mum so far, but he’s going to have to take a position eventually, and he could follow Pingree’s lead to satisfy his left-wing donor base and supporters.

- The end of gasoline powered automobiles in 10 years (because, you know, all Mainers can afford to go buy an electric car)

- Economic security for all Americans unwilling to work (we think Maine tried this already, didn’t work out so well!)

- End production of electricity via fossil fuels and nuclear power(just imagine how much fun it’s going to be to wait for your electric car to charge while trying to keep your house warm with wind and solar on a cold January night in Maine)

A possible federal carbon tax (apparently the carbon tax Democrats are proposing in Maine isn’t enough, so we will get the tax at both the federal and state levels)

Gut and retrofit every building in America with whatever technology the left sees fit to force upon us. (We’re guessing there will be an arms race among left-wing donors on this one)

- The Green New Deal outlines that it will eliminate air travel and cows (yes cows, as in beef, because cows emit methane) – but probably not in 10 years, it will take longer, the Green New Deal says.

Welcome to America in 2019, where one of Maine’s representatives to Congress (Pingree) wants to take away your car --> give your money to people who are unwilling to work --> force you to buy expensive solar and wind electricity --> double down on the carbon tax --> make you gut your home and office to upgrade to their standards --> and make sure you never grill a steak or eat a cheeseburger again --> and if you don't like it, get in your electric car and drive to Canada or Mexico, because you won't be able to buy a plane ticket anywhere else.

And that’s just the highlight... or rather low points of the plan Democrats want to force on you.

I can't decide if it's more unbelievable that Chellie Pingree signed on to this proposal, or that Jared Golden, representing Maine's Second District, hasn't come out and set a copy of the plan on fire to show his opposition. But this is where we are in America, 2019.

Americans understand that we have to protect our environment but we must do it in a way that doesn’t destroy our way of life.
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Read and listened to all this in AOCs Dissertation of her 'Deal', she has NO IDEA how to pay for this, she has NO CONCEPT of the insurmountable infrastructure conversion process as the technology which she noted has not been invented yet, is not quite yet available. She ESTIMATED would be in the range of $10 Trillion but of course is really "Free".

She undoubtedly is one of those that has no idea of what is occurring to get lights when flip the wall switch while during a power failure stands and stares at the switch trying to Make it Work.
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No phone no lights no motor car, sounds familiar...Wink


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Somebodies got to go find Solyndra. I'm pretty sure they are still in bed with Moochie and Bammie.
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thanks Dave  NOW I've got the GI theme playing in my head !!
the little ship was tossed, if not for courage.....

arrgh...
but a good rrgh !!
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Oh yeah, I'll be votin' for that!!  ROTFLMAO!!  The only bad air quality that is going on with these Dems is between their ears.... The Green Deal.. spare me....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pinball Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2019 at 7:19am
the only thing that makes any sense in there rhetoric is electric cars. I do feel like they should invest in technology to provide them to the public. they may not be for everyone but people who drive 30/50 miles a day I would think it would be a good thing but having said that this s strickly a ploy by the democrats to shy away from the most important issue. border security and illegal immigration of which our fine congress wont do there job and fix it. votem out.
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"They" already are investing in electric cars.  And I say let "them" be the companies, innovating for whatever market there is.  We don't need the government choosing winners. 
 
And that electricity has to be produced somehow.  And the materials have to be mined, refined, and manufactured (body panels, BATTERIES!, plastics, etc.) 
 
Good friggin' luck.  I say let her do it in her district first, and show us how great it is!
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electric cars are a HUGE loser tech..if, IF, they're so great why hasn't califonia BANNED all non 100% elelctric vehicles !? I get 4-6 updates on the tech that goes into e-cars and it's really scary, like 9 levels of security so 'someone' can't access the computer that controls the battery. yeah..interesting 'diddy'...you can remotely shutdown the car's battery.. a hackers delight !! Never mind the corrosion aspects cause they toss SALT onto the roads when a flake falls outta the sky... preheaters are required to warm up the batteries before you can drive in cold weather ! hmmm pre heat THAT reduces your drive time, duh !
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That is only half the problem, next comes the infrastructure that the car requires to be charged at home and the electrical supplier has to double/triple their existing power lines/grids so the rats can plug in their mouse cars. and not overload the system...  and what will it cost in the end to "fill her up" be?  More than likely it will be 10 cents or more per mile... and you'll have to do it after 10pm or such... and maybe a ten dollar bill for the charge for a hundred mile run and out on the road for a fast charge... how long will you have to wait??? + the charge there would maybe be as much as 20 or more depending on how rapid the charge is... and then future battery exchange costs might be as high as wht you paid for the car in the first place...

 I want to know is, how soon can we electrify and replace the congress idiots with electronic robotic congress critters????
Maybe we could then simply shut them things off if / when they got to stupid again.
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Ah the cry from MN electric car owners - it seems when it went to below 0 here the car range of driving went down to 30 to 50 miles - so unless you keep the batteries warm - you will be stranded if you drive or park in cold weather . 
 Then the small problem of finding heated parking at both ends of your travel seems to be another problem - how do you heat the parking area to keep your fuel saving electric warm .
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Good question!! I am wagering AOC cannot tie her own shoes so sticks with some sort of slip on, while during power outages stands staring at and flipping the light switch unable to understand why the lights do not work!!
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You guys are pretty good at criticizing someone you know absolutely nothing about, save what the neocons say about her.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez
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Tranny, we know EVERYTHING we need to know about her... Not someones OPINION, she opens her mouth DAILY and the IGNORANCE ROLLS OUT.. In her own words... NOBODY here is putting words in her mouth......... I didn't read your link, but probably has a good worthless college degree that DADDY paid for........... and EDUCATED IDIOT... she claims to be poor and from the HOOD, but she grew up PRIVILAGED and WELL TO DO, if you read up.
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AOC is the typical over educated Graduated Cum Laud idiot that can spell Sheit but cannot identify it.

I note again, likely cannot tie her own shoes and keep them tied without double knotting(I can), doubt can balance a check book(I can) most likely mis-comprehends still has check in that checkbook so can write them until runs out of blanks not money. Know that type REALLY well enough, worked in a publicly accessed Vehicle garage, saw them EVERY DAY. Never ran a business to understand what it takes to start, own, maintain and be productive in business(I have), she will never understand the basic premises of living as too educated to listen to coaching on that.

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Tammie, Are you into foo~foo Fluff haed deep?
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OK...3 easy to answer questions..
1) WHAT electric car does AOC drive ?
2) Does SHE still ride in airplanes ?
3) Is HER house/apt powered solely by 'green' power ?

after all one should lead by example !
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NO, NO, NO, jay.... TURD LOGIC says "You sacrifice your way of life so that I CAN LIVE LIKE A KING/ QUEEN............ remember, this is SOCIALISM at work.. those at the TOP get all the Benefits.
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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

"They" already are investing in electric cars.  And I say let "them" be the companies, innovating for whatever market there is.  We don't need the government choosing winners. 
 
And that electricity has to be produced somehow.  And the materials have to be mined, refined, and manufactured (body panels, BATTERIES!, plastics, etc.) 
 
Good friggin' luck.  I say let her do it in her district first, and show us how great it is!

You got that right, Tbone!  Here's what the super genius aoc wants us to drive!WinkWink

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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:


"They" already are investing in electric cars.  And I say let "them" be the companies, innovating for whatever market there is.  We don't need the government choosing winners. 
 
And that electricity has to be produced somehow.  And the materials have to be mined, refined, and manufactured (body panels, BATTERIES!, plastics, etc.) 
 
Good friggin' luck.  I say let her do it in her district first, and show us how great it is!


Aw yes, the Sargent Friday version, 'just the facts, mam'! I couldn't agree more. all facts that are often overlooked in these discussions, the Gumnt should not be picking the winners, and the green Giant has a big footprint!
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and, for the record, the genius from Harlem graduated cum laude. apparently, there is no specific definition for this 'honor', varying from institution to institution, but, generally can mean a GPA or 3.65 and up, and be in the top 35% of the class.

http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_GPA_for_Cum_Laude
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

You guys are pretty good at criticizing someone you know absolutely nothing about, save what the neocons say about her.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez



You better fact check your facts, Tramway. this is not all factual, for instance her mother never cleaned houses and drove school bus! big lie! her mom was upper middle class
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one just traded in, low miles barn find.

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“. I didn't read your link, but probably has a good worthless college degree that DADDY paid for........... and EDUCATED IDIOT... she claims to be poor and from the HOOD, but she grew up PRIVILAGED and WELL TO DO, if you read up.”

“If you read up.”..?   And “I didn’t read your link”.

You contradicted yourself mightily. I did read up. But you won’t?

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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

“. I didn't read your link, but probably has a good worthless college degree that DADDY paid for........... and EDUCATED IDIOT... she claims to be poor and from the HOOD, but she grew up PRIVILAGED and WELL TO DO, if you read up.”

“If you read up.”..?   And “I didn’t read your link”.

You contradicted yourself mightily. I did read up. But you won’t?


Your "source" is wikipedia, biography by a poll... Delve deeper, and discover the real story, tranny!Wink
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Tranny, you apparently didn't read to well... She grew up in a rich suburb and DADDY paid all the bills for her GREAT High School, then College..... she got a worthless degree and then was a FREE GRATIS worker on several projects WITH DADDYS MONEY... Then "someone" pushed her into the HOUSE seat.... SO WHAT ?   NO KNOWLEDGE of anything IMPORTANT.
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Another bought and paid for piece of worthless SHCensoredIT...  Do you get the drift now?
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Over-educated, book learned no street sense or practical application Idjit!!

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