Brought the HD3 home yesterday

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   Went over and got the HD3 on my trailer and home yesterday.  I still have to get the injector pump fixed, so we used a military 6 x 6 with a big crane and winch on the back to pull it out of the pole barn and lift it up and onto my trailer.  The tracks had sunk into the dirt floor in the barn about 3-4 inches so I was worried if they were all seized up.   I took a sledge hammer and tapped the tops of them to loosen them up and then did the same to the bottoms as it started to come out of the barn and loosen up.  Was happy to see the tracks rolling and knowing at least that part is ok.  Will probably have to loosen up most of the idler roller, but I figure once I get it in the garage I have all winter to mess with that.  Here are some pictures. 

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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Brought the HD3 home yesterday Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 1:50pm
	Went over and got the HD3 on my trailer and home yesterday. I still have to get the injector pump fixed, so we used a military 6 x 6 with a big crane and winch on the back to pull it out of the pole barn and lift it up and onto my trailer. The tracks had sunk into the dirt floor in the barn about 3-4 inches so I was worried if they were all seized up. I took a sledge hammer and tapped the tops of them to loosen them up and then did the same to the bottoms as it started to come out of the barn and loosen up. Was happy to see the tracks rolling and knowing at least that part is ok. Will probably have to loosen up most of the idler roller, but I figure once I get it in the garage I have all winter to mess with that. Here are some pictures.

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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 1:54pm
	Here is a few more pictures, one of it in the polebarn and one after we had it pulled out from winch it out with the 6 x 6.

ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 2:01pm
	Here we pulled it out into the opening and they started to hook up the crane to lift it up.

ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 2:04pm
	Here it is up in the air after a couple test lifts to make sure everything was ok. I just backed my trailer underneath and they lowered it down. Everything went very safe and very easy.

ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 2:12pm
	Here she is on my trailer after we got home. The last time it was used, the tracks were never cleaned so I spent an hour with a screwdriver picking out most of the big stuff. I am hoping to get it pressurewashed this afternoon as the weather is so nice. Hope to get the pump fixed and have it running by Christmas and then work on the rest of the odds and ends inside in my heated garage. Russ's buddies, Mike and Craig were great operators on the 6 x 6 with the crane. They have another 6 x 6 semi and are going to get a lowboy trailer and hope to start a specialty recovery business with their new toys. The rear winch alone has 380' of cable on it. Without the help from these guys, she would probably still be stuck in there as we tried moving it with Russ's 190 and she didn't even budge. Glad to have this one home. Other then the injection pump and new hood panels, I think this one will be just fine. My dad used to use this crawler on his farm from time to time so it is nice to have another piece of history in my hands.

Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41184	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 2:18pm
	Seems odd to see grouser bar tracks on a loader, lot of bite when turning with bucket and a lot of strain on machine. Most loaders use a more flat track or 3 bar groused so they do not bite as deep . So now have the before pictures , just have to wait to see the completed restored machne pics. Good luck with the project !
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CTuckerNWIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22807	Post Options Post Reply Quote CTuckerNWIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:17pm
	Looks like a good project, Chuck. When I got my OC46, the first thing I did was take the loader off. I knew it needed a lot of work and I didn't want to have to work around the loader. Good luck with it and keep us posted.
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Jacob (WI,ND) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Kenmare, ND Points: 1244	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jacob (WI,ND) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:33pm
	Boy, dozers are being saved left and right here today. Glad to see another one being brought back! Keep up the good work, and keep us updated!
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Tracy Martin TN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10551	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tracy Martin TN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 5:52pm
	Take the pan off from underneath. Wash all the crud out you can. While it is off,wash the rest of it. You will be glad you did. Coke is right about the pads, if you are going to use it much, try to find aet of double or triple bars, it will save your chains. HTH Tracy Martin

Dnoym N. S. Can. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Points: 544	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dnoym N. S. Can. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 6:48pm
	ChuckLuedtkeSEWI i`am glad that you just backed the trailer underneath and they lowered it down.because i didn`t see any stabilizers on that crane and a side ways movement mite get scarer real quick safety first Glad to see them being brought back! here my question what dose it have for an engine and transmission , keep us updated! B:-) Dnoym

ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 6:58pm
	This is the same engine and tranny as a D15 diesel, other then it has a shuttle clutch instead of a power director. This crawler also has a pto and three point although most of the three point arms are gone, but the hyd. ram and lifting points and mounting brackets are there. I am assuming that everything is original on this tractor, and it came with the pads that it has on it. My dad told me that they bought it brand new from the local AC dealer and it was on their farm from that point on. The tach cable is long gone, but the tach reads a little over 700 hours on it. I don't think it saw much use. I know it was started two years ago, but hasn't been outside in 12 or so years. Hopefully I can get her going and inside my garage shortly. I hope to send out the pump and injectors this week so I might have a chance to get it together and running on Thanksgiving weekend. Charlie, taking off the bucket and the arms is a good idea. I might end up doing that. I'm kind of leary of the way she's propped right now. I gave her a bath today and she's looking even better now.

Kipn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Tewksbury, Ma Points: 800	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kipn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 9:58am
	Good to see you got it home. Looks like a great winter project.

DonBC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Courtenay, BC, Points: 899	Post Options Post Reply Quote DonBC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 10:34am
	The first thing that I noticed as well was the grouser bar tracks on a crawler loader. Years ago I worked for a piling foundation contractor and they had a small IHC crawler loader for cleanup work around the drill rigs. It also had grouser bar tracks. One day shortly after I started working there they had a problem with the final and were complaining that the finals always gave them problems. I pointed out the aggressive tracks and suggested that they take a torch and cut the bars down to half height. They never had any final drive problems after that. I also owned an H3 crawler loader/backhoe that had the normal loader tracks. We used it a lot in the winter on frozen hilly ground so we welded some 3" long pieces of 1/2" rebar on the grousers to give a little more bite and to help stop side slip going across a slope.
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Ages Cat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hutchinson, MN Points: 679	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ages Cat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 6:57pm
	Glad to see it on the trailer and headed home to be saved.

D-17_Dave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mocksville NC Points: 990	Post Options Post Reply Quote D-17_Dave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 10:19pm
	Love to find that in my barn..... What's the spring for in the center of the boom just inboard of the bucket?

bigfish_Oh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: West Liberty,Oh Points: 1226	Post Options Post Reply Quote bigfish_Oh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Nov 2009 at 6:39pm
	Chuck, please bring it to Dale's and share your new toy !!!
	1941 WC sat for 29 years,started & dynoed 27 h.p. 1957 WD45 Grandpa bought new,factory p.s.,added wfe 1951 WD, factory p.s. 1960 D14 HnMk IV BkHoe 4 sale 2014 HD Tri Glide 2009 GMC CC SLT Dually

ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Nov 2009 at 8:27pm
	Bigfish, I need a new truck like yours to pull it down there. I don't think my Chevy would like that! I used the father in law's F350 to bring it the 15 miles home to me, but you could tell that the trailer was at it's max. My trailer is 12000 GVW and I'd have to say I was probably all of that with the crawler on it. If I have some time, I am going to borrow the F350 again and take it about 5 miles down the road and go over the truck scale with it on there before I unload it. I wanted to give it a bath first and get most of the mud off of it so I would have a true reading of how much it weighs for my own knowledge and safety. It will probably be a few years before I have a big enough rig to take it for that long of a journey.

scott Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: michigan Points: 2426	Post Options Post Reply Quote scott Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Nov 2009 at 7:10am
	Very cool. I'd like to hear what she weighs...

bigfish_Oh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: West Liberty,Oh Points: 1226	Post Options Post Reply Quote bigfish_Oh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Nov 2009 at 8:32am
	Wow, even a lightweight must be heavyweight!
	1941 WC sat for 29 years,started & dynoed 27 h.p. 1957 WD45 Grandpa bought new,factory p.s.,added wfe 1951 WD, factory p.s. 1960 D14 HnMk IV BkHoe 4 sale 2014 HD Tri Glide 2009 GMC CC SLT Dually

Byron WC in SW Wi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Wisconsin Points: 1635	Post Options Post Reply Quote Byron WC in SW Wi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Nov 2009 at 6:12pm
	Very cool. I love how those crawlers look.

ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Nov 2009 at 6:11am
	Update on my crawler. Got a call from the guy I sent my pump too, and he is hoping to have it done by the end of the week or beginning of next week. Pump was very dirty and rusty inside but he says after looking at it, it doesn't appear that the crawler had alot of hours on it as the pump parts internally look like new, and should be fine after cleaning the rust off and rebuilding. Injectors needed a little cleaning but they all looked good as well. That's good news to me and reinforces my belief and what my dad says that his neighbor did indeed buy this thing new and it was just used on the farm. The tach cable is currently broke but the hourmeter has a little over 700 hours on it which means that I bet it doesn't have more then 1000 hours on it total. Hopefully I will have the pump back and try to get it fired up over the Thanksgiving weekend.

TexasAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Texas Points: 396	Post Options Post Reply Quote TexasAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Nov 2009 at 1:16pm
	Could a fella put a dozer blade on a loader crawler and vice versa if one had all the parts?

Kipn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Tewksbury, Ma Points: 800	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kipn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Nov 2009 at 1:45pm
	I always thought that an HD3 is an HD3. At the factory they would add the nessesary parts to the base tractor whether it was a dozer or loader. They were options. Could be wrong though.

Bud(WI) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Wisconsin Points: 68	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bud(WI) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Nov 2009 at 7:15pm
	I've done just that this year. It is a pain to get 40+ year old rusted bolts free, and there is nothing light on an H3, but in the end it is possible. You do need the complete loader or dozer blade mounts as they mount to the crawler differently. Not something you would want to change very often - even if the nuts are not rusted tight... Edited by Bud(WI) - 19 Nov 2009 at 7:16pm

Rawleigh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: White Stone, VA Points: 421	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rawleigh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Feb 2010 at 9:49am
	IH made dozer blades that pinned on the loader arms in place of the bucket. Sort of like a snowplow. I'm sure that AC probably did as well. You could fab up a 6 way blade from parts to put on it.

Jack(Ky) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ky Points: 1151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jack(Ky) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Feb 2010 at 6:54am
	I like that 5 ton army wrecker. I used to have license for those. We had 3 of them in the section I was in. I would say the track wasn't to hard on it.JP

Eric[IL] Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Points: 485	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eric[IL] Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Feb 2010 at 12:07pm
	Chuck, great pictures and thanks for sharing. Looking at your pictures got me to thinking. How did the AC dealers delivery these fine machines back in the day - 1950 1960 era?? Did they haul the base unit on a hydraulic bed-ramp-winch straight truck, then bring the blade or loader separately on another trip? Then assembly it at the farm?