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modirt
Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Missouri Points: 6589 |
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Posted: 03 Dec 2021 at 8:57am |
Finally did it. First time in my life I installed a set of tractor chains.....getting ready for winter. Had been putting it off, following the logic of the old Ozarks hillbilly and fixing his leaky roof. If its raining, that is no time to get on a roof. And if its not raining, the roof isn't leaking so no need to fix it. So this was put into motion about 3 years ago.......when we got about 20 inches of snow in one night. Tractor is a Ford 5610 2WD with bucket loader on the front. Figured it would be slow going, but would do the job. Major fail! Got about 15 feet out of the barn and came to a dead stop.......wouldn't go forward or back. Took me nearly 10 minutes of pushing myself backwards with the bucket to get it back into the barn. But even with most of the snow cleared by neighbor's little Kubota......was helpless on the hard packed snow. So ordered a set of chains for it. Double H pattern for 30 inch tires. Chains this big weigh about 100 pounds a side....so putting them on by draping them over the top was going to be a big deal so kept putting it off. Cost me again last hear when we got about 7 inches with more coming that needed clearing. Even with that, tractor was borderline helpless. So this year, chains were going on no matter what. The question was how. Lifting and draping like I've seen done with truck chains was a no go. Then considered the trick where you put a bottle jack under the axle and roll them on. Still a big deal. Then discovered the trick where you lay them out on the ground, tie the ends to tire through the hub with piece of baler twin.....and drive them on. Pulled them right up and over....tight....no slack......and held in perfect position to lock the ends together. Whole job took about an hour. So even if they are never needed, not a wasted effort. Figured it was easier to do on a day when sun was shining and 70 degrees out vs. waiting until the snow was flying. Second part was a modification to the blade itself, which tends to dig and scalp the driveway or any grass. New trick for that was to install a piece of 2" schedule 80 PVC pipe on it. Cut a slit down the edge, and slipped it (More like pounded it on with great difficulty). The pipe puts a large radius edge on the blade......which works perfect. Pinches the snow to pop it up.....yet skims over gravel....grass or concrete. Only problem is in cold weather, PVC gets brittle and shatters at first hint of trouble. Changed that out to schedule 40 steel pipe.....held in place by tangs welded to back and bolted in place, and it has become a snow moving marvel. So locked, loaded and ready. With any luck, will never get to use it.
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21452 |
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dang, you get SNOW is Missouri ??? I didn't think 'his' machine got that far !!!
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
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modirt
Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Missouri Points: 6589 |
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Been out here about 6 years now. First 3 years.....barely had to shovel the walks. Next year.........BAM! One event.....about 20 inches.....week later, another foot. Since then......one to two events a year that would warrant pushing it off. When it's deep enough spousal unit's car won't budge, I hear about it. And along the lines of "mind is willing....but the body is weak"......frustrating to be sitting on a tractor that is running......but can't get enough traction to push over a domino. Snow removal effort has evolved into mine, driveway across the road and elderly neighbor's next door. Good news is that while we may get dumped on......will seldom last more than a couple weeks. Goes to -15 F, but doesn't stay there forever. |
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modirt
Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Missouri Points: 6589 |
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BTW, since I'm new at this, and have access to people with experience........what is the bst way to go? Get chains as tight as you can get them......or leave a little slack so they can work themselves into best position? These did not come with an outside tension adjuster, so have ordered a pair....spiderweb kind made of chain with springs on them. Goes on outside of the hub. One thing I was concerned about was tire chains wapping the crap out of my fenders. About 2 years ago, moved tires out about 4 inches to gain some clearance, bus was still concerned about the tails flapping around. Seem to have that under control. Made one trip up the driveway and back (about 100 yards).....I can see this is not a high speed operation. Ride was pretty bumpy. |
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Dakota Dave
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3893 |
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I put mine on three weeks ago its had to install them after it snows. I lift one end and put on center of tire stretch out the rest straight and drive the tractor foward. takes me about 30 minutes. I also put the cab windows back in I remove them in the summer.
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21452 |
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Have them on my riding snowblower(22HP Craftsman/Berco blower). I get them tight, then use bungie cords to take up the slack,weaving the bungie in a kindaof 5 point cross cause the bungies kinda long.
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
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TomC
Orange Level Access Joined: 24 Nov 2017 Location: Hillsboro, MO Points: 1544 |
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Jay is correct, get them on as tight as you can and start running bungee cords on the outside starting at the top pull it down to 6 then go back to 2 o'clock, start the next one about 4 o'clock over to about 10 o'clock keep going until you have even steady tension all the way around, you would not believe how fast and how much damage a loose chain can do.
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PaulB
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4402 |
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If you can't lift them onto the tire. lay then out flat behind the tractor, drive onto them, STOP, then tie them to the tire and drive further until you have them wrapped around to where they will meet. NO lifting at all.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
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klinemar
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 7933 |
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I have put tire chains on a 170 with 18.4-28 tires and lengthened that set so that they fit the 18.4 -30 tires on my 185. I ave a 8 foot bucket on the 185 and you get it full of wet snow and can't back up! Tire chains make all of the difference. I string mine out and drive the tractor over them. Then take a ratchet strap and pull them tight. I use tarp straps to keep tension on the outside to keep them from jumping off. I have found you have to drive around fo awhile to get them set and tightened up.
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mdm1
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Onalaska, WI Points: 2592 |
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Keep checking them once they are on. You may have to adjust them after you drive it around a little. Do that before the snow comes. No fun looking for stuff in the snow and cold....
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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1951WDNWWI
Bronze Level Access Joined: 11 Jul 2011 Location: NW Wisconsin Points: 108 |
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The PVC pipe over the cutting edge is a nice ideal until it shatters in the cold. Running chucks of plastic thru a snowblower, boot or tire is no fun. A slotted steel pipe with a bolt at each end to keep it on last longer.
Edited by 1951WDNWWI - 03 Dec 2021 at 10:13pm |
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victoryallis
Orange Level Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2855 |
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Why PVC? Slit black iron pipe with a plasma cutter.
Even in the snow and cold tire chains are a 15-20 minute job. Jack up tractor toss then over wiggle them tight, secure the latch, bolt the tail and your good to go.
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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allisbred
Orange Level Access Joined: 28 Mar 2015 Location: Hanover Pa Points: 1011 |
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On stone driveways w/blade, I always push the snow off first in reverse. Then if really packed tight and iced over, use the depth control and set about 3-4” and drag off at what ever angle I can get by with. This helps with the less stones in the yard. That’s with a 175/185 and a stout 8ft power adjust blade, good for a few feet. Very rarely need to use the loader.
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29450 |
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My chains are still hanging, usually if need them will go to barn, plug in block heater and install as engine warms, makes it easier both ways as take awhile to warm the old cold 180.
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9263 |
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On the smaller 16" tires, I jacked up whatever I was putting chains on and let the air out of the tires. Installed the chains and refilled the tires. The difference in size change tightened them up real nice. With rear tractor tires, especially with fluid, that might not be a good decision.
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Kenny L.
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NEIOWA Points: 1224 |
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I do the same thing even with 18.4x38 on the 8030, turn valve stem up to the top and let some air out tighten chain re air tire
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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i hate putting chains on anything!
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Tbone95
Orange Level Access Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11388 |
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Sheesh, if I didn’t do the kind of stuff that was a no go and big deal, I wouldn’t get much done.
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fixer1958
Orange Level Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: kansas Points: 2435 |
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I just turn the blade around and shorten the top link. Does pretty well up to about a foot of snow. Have to put the chains on if it is that bad. If I have to put the chains on they stay on. I hate putting them on. I can go through anything though. 14.9-28 I let some air out too and use ratchet straps to keep from ripping the fenders off. Have the wheels pulled in to 6' OD and the blade is a 7'. It can still pull me off in ditch even with the chains on but not near as bad.
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modirt
Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Missouri Points: 6589 |
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Epilogue: So dodged the bullet for Dec and Jan......then comes Feb. Groundhog day......we get nearly a foot of snow spread out over 24 hours. Started as an ice storm.....then an inch of sleet that looked like something what fell out of a snow cone.......then started as wet snow......then dry powder blowing sideways at 30 mph. I've got 3' drifts in places I've never seen drift. So patches of driveway to clear that were blown bare to 18" deep. Chains are the bomb! There were a couple places they stalled out.....(uphill on ice moving a heavy load)......but by and large, they got the job done in some rough conditions where in past without them, tractor (2WD with loader making it front heavy) would come to a full stop and not be able to move forward or back. As easy as it was to put them on........gonna be an annual event come Late Nov. Second part......I put a piece of 2" diameter schedule 40 steel pipe on the blade. Cut a slit down the edge.....slipped it over the blade edge.......it is then held in place by some two tabs welded on........to mate up with the blade bolts. That is the only way to roll. Weight of the blade will pinch snow up from the ground, but round radius of the pipe will not dig. Does not move gravel, scratch cement or cut grass. Drop it to the ground and go. Prototypes were PVC. They were supposed to be durable but weren't. They would shatter after about 10 minutes. Steel pipe is the way to go. |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29450 |
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My little baby sitting warm and cozy after use
No edge cover just drop down until touching then raise in bumps until tension on lift arms and blade acts to be dangling, All Good.
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modirt
Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Missouri Points: 6589 |
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Backed the tractor into a shed what runs the length of the barn the long way.......bucket about 3 feet inside shed opening........and I still had an inch of powder on the seat. Goofy powder that blew into all kinds of places. Looked like it had been parked outside, but wasn't. |
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modirt
Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Missouri Points: 6589 |
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Yet another discovery........tractor has a factory installed electric block heater. Plugged that into a GFI outlet and it tripped out instantly.......first time......every time. Plugged into a non GFI outlet, it worked without tripping breaker. Would be curious to see that heater circuit diagrammed out.
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tadams(OH)
Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 9626 |
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I guess the more cold & snow is what they want to call Global Warming
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GeneD14
Silver Level Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: TN Points: 235 |
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When we lived in MI: I plowed snow on a gravel drive with my D14, chains, wheel weights and a Woods rear blade reversed. It work perfect.
When we concreted part of the drive I bolted a 6" strip of thick rubber over the cutting edge, so the concrete wouldn't get all scratched up. |
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