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   So I'm learning slowly. Apparently diesel + Howes winter treat is not a substitute for kerosene.

When the temperatures dropped here in the Midwest, suddenly my salamander stopped working too, the diesel didnt' look like it had gel'd, I stripped the sucker down, cleaned it all, it just would not draw. Now the temperatures are back up, works fine, like nothing ever happened. 

Guess the temperature drop just made the diesel a little too heavy or something. So once I drain the diesel out, I'm gonna get some kerosene for next year. Admittedly part of the joy of the diesel was I can get it at the pump without having to go inside the store. Hopefully by next season that won't be such a worry.

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Coke Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Sep 2018 Location: MIdwest Points: 215	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Kerosene Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 10:19am
	So I'm learning slowly. Apparently diesel + Howes winter treat is not a substitute for kerosene. When the temperatures dropped here in the Midwest, suddenly my salamander stopped working too, the diesel didnt' look like it had gel'd, I stripped the sucker down, cleaned it all, it just would not draw. Now the temperatures are back up, works fine, like nothing ever happened. Guess the temperature drop just made the diesel a little too heavy or something. So once I drain the diesel out, I'm gonna get some kerosene for next year. Admittedly part of the joy of the diesel was I can get it at the pump without having to go inside the store. Hopefully by next season that won't be such a worry.
	1957 D17 Diesel w/ M&W Pistons

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shameless dude Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611	Post Options Post Reply Quote shameless dude Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 9:52pm
	i bought a Knipco type heater made to burn diesel, it works fine in really cold temps, the knipco type not designed for diesel but for kerosene don't work as well. bought mine at TSC, don't remember it's brand name.

Kurt WI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 19 Oct 2011 Location: Cascade WI Points: 3230	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kurt WI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Mar 2021 at 7:42pm
	I burnt diesel fuel all winter in mine with no issues but bought fuel in town and kept in the old farm house basement where the pressure tank and water lines start for my house and the barn. But it pretty much stayed above 35 at all times in there.
	WD D17D 170 190xt 190xtIII 200 7020

john(MI) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9263	Post Options Post Reply Quote john(MI) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Mar 2021 at 8:02pm
	I never burn diesel, kerosene cause it always works and don't smell so bad. I tried diesel once and the fumes nearly kilt me!
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Dave H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3477	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dave H Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 6:49am
	I run mine on propane, but, but isn't #1 Diesel as close to kero as you can get. Also iffin you have access to the throw away fuel from testing Jet A tanks, that works fine.

Coke Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Sep 2018 Location: MIdwest Points: 215	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2021 at 8:50pm
	According to someone in the winter diesel thread, #1 diesel is kerosene. Anyways, I'm going to drain the salamander, stick that fuel in the tractor, and get some kerosene for the heater and see how that goes. I mean it didn't get that cold last winter, but it seemed to be enough to affect the heater, even when treating the diesel with Howes. Local truck stop has a kerosene pump, so should be good. Is there such a thing as winter kerosene I should be aware of, maybe wait 'til later?
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klinemar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 7933	Post Options Post Reply Quote klinemar Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2021 at 9:10pm
	I switched to Propane. I have a salamander and a Torpedo heater when I need some heated barn space or I have used the Torpedo to start the 7060 when it was below zero and I forgot to plug in the block heater. I put the Torpedo on blocks and aim it at the engine block and in about 20 minutes the 7060 started. Burning Propane is a lot cleaner.

Coke Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Sep 2018 Location: MIdwest Points: 215	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2021 at 9:59pm
	I might be calling a torpedo a salamander, it's the one designed like a ram jet. I do have propane for the house, but not in the shed. The propane guy will refill small tanks too, but I'd rather have something less flamable than propane. I got a fancy electric heat gun last winter for cold starting the D17, haven't had to use it yet.
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HD6GTOM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627	Post Options Post Reply Quote HD6GTOM Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2021 at 10:52pm
	Guys I spent 13 years owning a farm fuel business. #1 diesel is not kerosene. Kerosene is far more distilled than #1 diesel. It is a lighter fuel that #1. Kerosene can be used to cut #2 diesel in the winter time. It is far better than the stuff in a bottle to winterize your fuel. If you have a heater designed to use kerosene, you should not be attempting to burn #1 in it.