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I honestly can’t say I’ve ever seen a straight sided 5 gallon bucket.
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Seems like drywall topping mud buckets are pretty "straight sided" ?
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Not really the ones I’ve seen
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A lot of old steel buckets are straight... tar / roofing , etc........... as far as i know, ALL plastic buckets are taper... probably easier to make and stack empty.
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Those plastic buckets may stack easier but you have to have an air compressor to get them apart.
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Originally posted by GARY(OH/IN) GARY(OH/IN) wrote:

Those plastic buckets may stack easier but you have to have an air compressor to get them apart.
LMAO !!!! They're even harder to get apart if rain water got down between them WinkWink
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Well I absolutely have never seen a straight sided 5 gal bucket, every one I ever looked at was round. Wink LOL
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Most of the STEEL ones are straight.. Would be harder to make a TAPERED wall bucket.. Roofing tar / paint/ etc.


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You guys are missing the point I think.  ONE of those gauges is marked WRONG.  Even if you take into account the funnel shape, IF that one is marked correctly, it will READ correctly.  It IS all about volume as Tracy says.

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As I said,,,,,,,,IF the markings on the reciever is correct, no matter the shape

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No, we didnt miss the point... The point was you can NOT take 6 oz of water and pour in both gauges and have them BOTH read the same value.... VOLUME has nothing to do with it.... That was the example of 1 inch of water in a coffee cup compared to 1 inch of water in a 5 gallon bucket... BOTH 1 inch.. NOT the same volume.
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Who knew rain gauges were indeed such a dilemma?!
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Most of the STEEL ones are straight.. Would be harder to make a TAPERED wall bucket.. Roofing tar / paint/ etc.



Um.....so how do they nest for storage if they're straight?

And....don't really think it would be that much harder to make.
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they don't 'nest', same as beer cans, bean cans,pop cans, etc. all have straight sides...

Now what I want to know is WHY aren't ALL cans of food 'stackable' in a pantry ? Some cans have slightly rounded bottomes ,so you CAN stack the cans...while others are 'flat' bottomed and don't stack well.....

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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

they don't 'nest', same as beer cans, bean cans,pop cans, etc. all have straight sides...

Now what I want to know is WHY aren't ALL cans of food 'stackable' in a pantry ? Some cans have slightly rounded bottomes ,so you CAN stack the cans...while others are 'flat' bottomed and don't stack well.....

i know, one of life's mysteries.....
they don't 'nest', same as beer cans, bean cans,pop cans, etc. all have straight sides.
Read the ad again. Nice and slow this time!

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Tbone, i think you missread Jay... The steel cans have straight sides, but a small BELL at the top.. With the lid on, the 2nd can will set INTO the lid of the first.. Its only 12/ inch, but keeps one from sliding off when stacked.. A lot of soup cans or beer cans are also made that way.

i guess it depends on what your definition of IS is !  Wink 


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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

they don't 'nest', same as beer cans, bean cans,pop cans, etc. all have straight sides...

Now what I want to know is WHY aren't ALL cans of food 'stackable' in a pantry ? Some cans have slightly rounded bottomes ,so you CAN stack the cans...while others are 'flat' bottomed and don't stack well.....

i know, one of life's mysteries.....
they don't 'nest', same as beer cans, bean cans,pop cans, etc. all have straight sides.
Read the ad again. Nice and slow this time!
From the add and the picture, it looks like the bottom 1 1/2-2 " of the bucket will "nest" in the upper/wide portion of the pretty-much straight sided looking steel pails Smile
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I get it, they aren't "as tapered" as a plastic bucket. But also think they wouldn't make a very good cylinder for calculating when it comes to trying to be very accurate.

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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Tbone, i think you missread Jay... The steel cans have straight sides, but a small BELL at the top.. With the lid on, the 2nd can will set INTO the lid of the first.. Its only 12/ inch, but keeps one from sliding off when stacked.. A lot of soup cans or beer cans are also made that way.

i guess it depends on what your definition of IS is !  Wink 

Steve, the add you posted says this EXACTLY: "Empty pails nest for storage"
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YEP........... whats your definition of IS...

as Freedguy and Jay said, the plastic buckets will NEST inside each other maybe 8- 10 inches... The steel buckets have STRAIGHT WALLS and set in the LIP maybe 1 inch ... with the lid on, then just set inside the 1/2 inch tall lip.


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So you put lids on empty buckets? Wow, well there it IS then!
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Just having fun here.....because....well, the world sucks! But honestly, I would call that stacking, not nesting.

Edited by Tbone95 - 10 Jun 2020 at 8:53am
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dang it's HOT here... so ...
to me 'nesting' means something goes into another something, pretty dang far, say 90+% inside...
'stacking' means something will go on top of anotehr  something and not generally far over

as for rain guages... yeesh, just go buy 3 same brand/same units and PRAY they ALL read the same......Cry
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

dang it's HOT here... so ...
to me 'nesting' means something goes into another something, pretty dang far, say 90+% inside...
'stacking' means something will go on top of anotehr  something and not generally far over

as for rain guages... yeesh, just go buy 3 same brand/same units and PRAY they ALL read the same......Cry


to me 'nesting' means something goes into another something, pretty dang far, say 90+% inside..

EXACTLY! So....did you reread the ad Steve posted?

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Did the rain gauge ever get solved?  If the new one is just a straight cylinder you should be able to just measure from the bottom with a tape measure and see if the increments were printed off by 1/2".  I would bet the new one is off.
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the add got it WRONG... There definition of NESTING is the bucket sets 1 inch into the bucket below it... I have bought dozens of steel buckets... They do no NEST.... they STACK as jay said... Look at soup cans, beer cans, etc... as jay said, they STACK.. Plastic tapered buckets NESTS. ............ they are using the wrong word.

Go to the Farm STore or Hardware Store and tell them you want to see the 5 gal buckets of ROOFING TAR or BARN PAINT ........... they will be Stacked.


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Sssshhhhhh…...relax Steve. Maybe switch to decaf?

Just jerkin' the proverbial chain of a very frustrating thread....You know...volume is volume, nesting is nesting, is is is.

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Originally posted by structures structures wrote:

Did the rain gauge ever get solved?  If the new one is just a straight cylinder you should be able to just measure from the bottom with a tape measure and see if the increments were printed off by 1/2".  I would bet the new one is off.

What I wanna know, is how it is ALWAYS 1/2 inch off?

Maybe the last 1/2 inch doesn't get emptied out?
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Tbone now you know what I meant about a oil Wink thread.LOL And I see where I got confused Confused about your on line name.
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The problem with the rain gauges is they are all BUILT IN CHINA ... They build them in centimeters, and then convert to inches.. Some say there are 2 cm per inch, some say 2.54 cm per inch. !!! Wink
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