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    Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 3:10pm
Wondering if anyone has replaced these pins/rods ? Have one that is very rusty with lots of play . Will a 1/2" steel rod cut to size work ? Thanks
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Joe(TX) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 3:17pm
That's what I used on my 190 seat. Just have to drill holes for the roll pins.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ACinSC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 3:32pm
Roll pins ?? Good to know . Hafta get my magnifying glass out . Thanks
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bleeds orange Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 3:43pm
I just did all the pins and bushings on my d15 seat. Pretty much torch everything out.

Bought new shock also.

Got everything I needed at DJS tractor. Yes there is roll ins in each rod . New rods come pre drilled.

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Thanks Cory . If only I had a torch . I've seen those in the catolog . Only have one that's really bad . Beginning to think it's going to stay wobbly .
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I always just cut them into with metal blade on reciper. saw. Cut on both side then drive out rest of pin from seat plate. Goes quick !! Cut new pin from cold roll and replace . Most of the time I used cotter pins instead of roll pins. Have not had one fail yet.
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Thanks Burl . Sounds doable .
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Lots of heat, penetrating oil and hammering.  I have done it on several of my seats already.  I get my local fab shop to put new bushings in and make new pins out of stainless so they do not rust. 
It's the best thing you can do to improve the ride on these old seats.  Day and night difference.  It is a bit of work, but you will notice the difference.
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Thanks Myron I've been hitting this rusty pin with kroil for a good while . Gonna see if I can find a piece of 1/2" steel tomorrow
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Make sure you have all the roll pins removed first.
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I can only see one . Guess there's two ? Anyone remember the size ? Thanks
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I did the seat in our 200 and bought all parts through agco
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IIRR, there's only 1 in the center...

Comes out better if you have the appropriate roll pin punch...
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I have a roll pin punch set . This pin's very rusty but I think I see a roll pin on the right . Thanks guys
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Lay the seat frame on its side and drive the 1/2" pin downwards with a short fat punch and a 4 lb hammer. Doing it this way will shear off the roll pin so you don't have to remove it. Do this with the roll pin down. The seat frame has to be supported against something solid when you start hammering against the pivot pin.
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Thanks Dr Allis !
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I guess I sometimes use a deep socket to lay the seat frame against, using the socket as a die to drive the pin into making it solid when you hammer away.
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Thanks , again .
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Thanks Gary but I only need one of the longer ones . Rest look like they have been replaced. Hopefully I can buy some 1/2" rod somewhere .
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I did my 190, D14, D17 and D19. Bought all the parts from Agco. Just a punch and hammer to get it apart.
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Thanks Lon . With all the rain we're having today may be a good day for some hammer time . 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ACinSC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2020 at 4:18pm
Started on the rusty seat pin removal today . Looks to me that if you want to replace the shock you have to pull a couple lower pins ? Sound right ? Thanks

Edited by ACinSC - 20 Feb 2020 at 4:19pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ACinSC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 2020 at 1:45pm
Finally finished my seat rebuild . Replaced the shock and all the pins but one . Also replaced 4 bushings . Much better . Hopefully my favorite son will post a pic . Thanks
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Thanks to my son for posting the pics and to all the advice I received here. Now I'm ready for some seat time .
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