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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 3:10pm |
Wondering if anyone has replaced these pins/rods ? Have one that is very rusty with lots of play . Will a 1/2" steel rod cut to size work ? Thanks
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Joe(TX)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Weatherford. TX Points: 1682 |
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That's what I used on my 190 seat. Just have to drill holes for the roll pins.
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1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Roll pins ?? Good to know . Hafta get my magnifying glass out . Thanks
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bleeds orange
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2012 Location: mt. vision, ny Points: 662 |
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I just did all the pins and bushings on my d15 seat. Pretty much torch everything out.
Bought new shock also. Got everything I needed at DJS tractor. Yes there is roll ins in each rod . New rods come pre drilled. Thanks cory |
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Thanks Cory . If only I had a torch . I've seen those in the catolog . Only have one that's really bad . Beginning to think it's going to stay wobbly .
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Burl
Silver Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2014 Location: Aurora Mo. Points: 232 |
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I always just cut them into with metal blade on reciper. saw. Cut on both side then drive out rest of pin from seat plate. Goes quick !! Cut new pin from cold roll and replace . Most of the time I used cotter pins instead of roll pins. Have not had one fail yet.
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Thanks Burl . Sounds doable .
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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7204 |
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Lots of heat, penetrating oil and hammering. I have done it on several of my seats already. I get my local fab shop to put new bushings in and make new pins out of stainless so they do not rust. It's the best thing you can do to improve the ride on these old seats. Day and night difference. It is a bit of work, but you will notice the difference.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Thanks Myron I've been hitting this rusty pin with kroil for a good while . Gonna see if I can find a piece of 1/2" steel tomorrow
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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7204 |
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Make sure you have all the roll pins removed first.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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I can only see one . Guess there's two ? Anyone remember the size ? Thanks
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Mikez
Orange Level Access Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8144 |
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I did the seat in our 200 and bought all parts through agco
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 50518 |
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IIRR, there's only 1 in the center...
Comes out better if you have the appropriate roll pin punch...
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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I have a roll pin punch set . This pin's very rusty but I think I see a roll pin on the right . Thanks guys
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19499 |
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Lay the seat frame on its side and drive the 1/2" pin downwards with a short fat punch and a 4 lb hammer. Doing it this way will shear off the roll pin so you don't have to remove it. Do this with the roll pin down. The seat frame has to be supported against something solid when you start hammering against the pivot pin.
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Thanks Dr Allis !
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19499 |
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I guess I sometimes use a deep socket to lay the seat frame against, using the socket as a die to drive the pin into making it solid when you hammer away.
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Thanks , again .
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Gary
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5170 |
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Thanks Gary but I only need one of the longer ones . Rest look like they have been replaced. Hopefully I can buy some 1/2" rod somewhere .
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Lon(MN)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Elk River,MN Points: 1905 |
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I did my 190, D14, D17 and D19. Bought all the parts from Agco. Just a punch and hammer to get it apart.
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Thanks Lon . With all the rain we're having today may be a good day for some hammer time .
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Started on the rusty seat pin removal today . Looks to me that if you want to replace the shock you have to pull a couple lower pins ? Sound right ? Thanks
Edited by ACinSC - 20 Feb 2020 at 4:19pm |
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Finally finished my seat rebuild . Replaced the shock and all the pins but one . Also replaced 4 bushings . Much better . Hopefully my favorite son will post a pic . Thanks
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WeisAC2
Bronze Level Joined: 02 Feb 2017 Location: Aiken SC Points: 110 |
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2527 |
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Thanks to my son for posting the pics and to all the advice I received here. Now I'm ready for some seat time .
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