This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Other Topics > Pulling Forum
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Governor help

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
George Bradley View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 04 Nov 2014
Location: Maryland
Points: 17
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote George Bradley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Governor help
    Posted: 06 Jan 2020 at 5:17am
Working on my 59 D17. I have changed to 175 governor weights, changed to a mag drive off a WD to operate C5 electronic ignition, also installed a C5 header with a new TSX773 carb, also new governor thrust bearing. Now my problem, the governor goes from 450 rpms to 2000+ in about a half inch of travel on the quadrant. Motor running or off, same snap on governor rod. Unhooked from carb same thing. Changed back to original weights, same problem. The quadrant lever is stiff, but can't find anything binding. Help!

Edited by George Bradley - 06 Jan 2020 at 6:59am
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
DrAllis View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 19360
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jan 2020 at 4:10pm
Start by synchronizing the governor to the carb throttle shaft.  Engine off. Hand throttle wide open. Disconnect the link rod from the vertical governor arm behind the generator. The vertical arm SHOULD NOT MOVE. If it moves rearward, you need to bend the vertical arm or bend the link rod to make it shorter so it just slides in the hole. As far as your stiff throttle, I have no idea. You said 175 governor weights. They are the same as 170 weights. What are you trying to accomplish with them over the WD/D17 weights ??
Back to Top
George Bradley View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 04 Nov 2014
Location: Maryland
Points: 17
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote George Bradley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 9:41am
Found the problem, when changing the drives, the WD distributor drive gear is narrower and I was using the D17 governor thrust assembly which allowed for a space between the thrust bearing and the forks which allowed the "snap" to occur, which also caused the binding the linkage Using a WC thrust assembly solved both problems. The reason for using the 175 weights with the D17 spring was to increase RPMs 200
Back to Top
tbran View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Paris Tn
Points: 3213
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tbran Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 12:28pm
What Dr was getting at was the rpm can probably be increased by backing out on the allen screw throttle stop to over 2000 rpm - the issue is once the engine rpm drops to where the carb throttle butterfly is wide open that is all you are going to get.  
When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
Back to Top
bradley6874 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Location: salisbury md
Points: 1344
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bradley6874 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jan 2020 at 9:13am
Ok maybe I can shed some light here he went to a wd mag drive because the c5 ignition is not set up for a d17 distributor drive I couldn’t find the bearing for the wd set up I had so he used the d17 bearing , the gear on the wd is narrower than the d17 which left space between the bearing and fork causing the jump switch back to the taller bearing that cured the jump the length from flange to bearing face is the same IF you use the correct bearing!! as far as what’s he trying to accomplish with the 175 weights per dr Allis d17 spring and175 weights give you 2200 rpm
You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.059 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum