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Kevin210
Silver Level Joined: 08 Oct 2018 Location: Indiana Points: 356 |
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Posted: 15 Feb 2019 at 7:15pm |
I'm looking at MAYBE buying a 7060.Not knowing everything about hauling I found out today that it is 122 inches wide which makes it a smidge over 10 ft wide.
Would you guys worry about less than 2 inches over width and just put red flags on it and haul it. Reason I'm asking is it's in Arizona and home is Indiana. I would be hauling it with a pickup and gooseneck trailer. |
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TimNearFortWorth
Orange Level Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014 |
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Possibly one of the Buckeye units?
Will be an interesting trip going that far, hauling that Hoss with a pickup/gooseneck combo . . . .
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Bradleytrench
Silver Level Joined: 12 Mar 2013 Location: Missouri Points: 137 |
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Legal width is 102" (8' 6"). Legally you are suppose to have Over Size load permits for each state. The only way you can do that is to be a USDOT Common Carrier with a minimum of 1million dollar liability insurance to get oversize permits.
Now the old farmer trick is out the window when you cross that many state lines. You cant haul oversize through Oklahoma, missouri, or Illinois during night hours. So its a big gamble you take. In Missouri caught oversize, with no permit, its a $2500 ticket. Just fyi. Goodluck to you. Edited by Bradleytrench - 15 Feb 2019 at 7:55pm |
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wekracer
Orange Level Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Location: Tebbetts, MO Points: 1587 |
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I live in Missouri and I can haul my farm equipment over width but not on an interstate without a permit
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victoryallis
Orange Level Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2855 |
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Should be able to find one closer.
It would have to be one heck of a deal to make it worth it. |
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bleeds orange
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2012 Location: mt. vision, ny Points: 662 |
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I bought a 7010 with the factory long axles 10' wide from nevada,missouri. I live in new York state. I hauled it with my f350 and gooseneck. Strapped it down and headed home . Never got bothered. Best experience ever.
This was last spring. Just do it. |
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7060
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 1142 |
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I’m Missouri your allowed 12’ wide day or night as a farmer and 14’ I believe max width as a farmer transporting equipment. I haul a rogator sprayer a lot with floaters on it that is over 12’, but I built the trailer 11’ 11” and it has flag mounts and strobes on both ramps. Passed a lot of dot and never a problem. Called Jeff city when I built the trailer to make sure it was legal. I contacted Iowa dot a week ago because I’m hauling a mower conditioner home and they said I don’t need a oversized load and only need a temp fuel permit at 13’ wide as long as I’m not on the interstate. The best thing to do is go overkill. Flags flashing lights and I would buy fuel permits so they can get their tax money.
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19477 |
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Hauling a load in Iowa used to require a wide load permit (annual for $25 fee) on anything wider than 8 ft 6 inches. This was good up to 12 ft wide. Any road during daylight hours. Anything over 12 ft being hauled required an escort. Pulling something wide behind a truck was much easier than hauling, like a field cultivator or disc chisel.
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DougG
Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 7943 |
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That's a big tractor for a pickup and gooseneck , but maybe you have each heavy enough for the job, id load it up and go,, prolly never get stopped DOT are looking for comerical rigs to check, been to a few states hauling never got stopped even in Iowa
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lentsch
Silver Level Joined: 10 Feb 2011 Location: Glencoe,Mn. Points: 212 |
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Sometimes yer lucky an sometimes ya ain't. 102 is max width. I would check with each state DOT for their opinion and rules.
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DennisA (IL)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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If your truck and/or trailer is registered to a farm and not your personal name you’re are commercial. Farming is a business. You still have certain exemptions which non-farming businesses don’t get, but once you travel outside of the 150 mile range you’re exemptions are void. You can be held accountable to every regulation on the books.
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Kevin210
Silver Level Joined: 08 Oct 2018 Location: Indiana Points: 356 |
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I've thought of both ways.Put flags on the axles and go but then that might/could bring me unwanted attention or just load it and come home and hope for the best.Yeah it's just the axles sticking out what 10 inches on both sides and of course tires would still be on the 8.5 wide trailer.
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DougG
Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 7943 |
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They won't mess around with a farmer hauling his tractor, never heard of Dennis thing with license under a personal name???? Just have good equipment and you won't have any problems
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9263 |
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I've never been around those tractors so I don't know the height of one. If it's a deck over trailer and a cab tractor, will it still be under the road height limit
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lentsch
Silver Level Joined: 10 Feb 2011 Location: Glencoe,Mn. Points: 212 |
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Tractor Data shows exhaust at 117 inches so its probably about 10 feet tall or so to top of cab? Can measure mine tomorrow if that helps. Weight is around 14000 I believe.
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Michael V (NM)
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2335 |
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If its the one I seen with the Mexican hats for the duals, ya can leave them here at my place...
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LB0442
Orange Level Joined: 27 Dec 2014 Location: Boise ID Points: 767 |
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This is when I brought the beater/project 7080 home. I did measure the exhaust at the time and it was not high enough to even worry about, I can't recall what it was though.
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LB0442
Orange Level Joined: 27 Dec 2014 Location: Boise ID Points: 767 |
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I strapped down those side panels. They were so beat up I didn't want them to become a sail down the interstate.
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DennisA (IL)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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What I was referring to is that the law enforcement officers approach to the situation I may be different. I’ve ran from east coast to west coast many times. I have no business name or dot numbers on the on truck. The truck and trailer are registered in my name not a business. Dot officers pull behind me and run the plates and have never pulled me over. The law is the law but we all know that officers use their own judgment in different situations. A guy that buys something and is just trying to get it home may get some slack vs a “ professional “ driver. I would go get it if it was mine. I would also recommend that you add the flashers and flags. It shows that you’re trying to be as safe as you can. |
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DougG
Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 7943 |
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Very true Dennis, each officer has different ways of looking at things some I even think make up rules as they go!
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old farmer
Silver Level Access Joined: 12 Oct 2011 Location: Sturgis, Mich Points: 341 |
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If you are running farm plates on a pickup or larger you only allowed a 150 miles from your address. DOT in our area will stop you if they see something that they don’t like on truck. Lacking chain on load, safety chains, lights, and tires. I’d run by dot rules and keep copies lodging charges to prove you are resting. Michigan is where we live
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lentsch
Silver Level Joined: 10 Feb 2011 Location: Glencoe,Mn. Points: 212 |
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Hundreds of laws-hundreds of LEO's-hundreds of interpretations-good luck.
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TimNearFortWorth
Orange Level Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014 |
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Some years back I was in to re-tag my gooseneck and wanted to just put farm tags on it.
Asked about out of state use and the HP officer standing behind me advised don't worry about it. We discussed large straps vs. chains and he never would nail down any state requirements specific to rubber tired farm tractors. When I told him I was heading all the way to NY to bring down an approximately 7000# tractor (D19D) he advised to secure it safely and don't worry about the tags. Then handed me his official card and said "any other state tries to give you grief for farm tags while you have farm equipment on it, have em' just call me". Chained her and added big straps to be safe, never was questioned once and pulled over numerous times in port of entries to check everything while the law was all around me. Couple years later had a cattle chute on my single axle 3K trailer and got pulled over in southern OK. Figured they might give me grief with TX farm tags on that one but HP gal just wanted to see BOS showing I didn't steal the working chute. Drug a 185 home from OK few years back; chained and strapped again. Eight hour drive and got lit up five miles from my place. TX HP walked all around the trailer and when I asked if there was any problem? Said "nope, just wanted to check out your tractor as grew up on Allis Chalmers".
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3197 |
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Minimum of 4 corner chains with chain tension binders, per each item being hauled (tractor).
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victoryallis
Orange Level Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2855 |
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Odd I had a MSP trooper tell me a farmer bringing home is own equipment is the least of their worries. I’ve on multiple occasions had leo’s give me a neighborly wave when I was knowingly towing illegally. Edited by victoryallis - 17 Feb 2019 at 7:31pm |
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DennisA (IL)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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Also someone had concerns about your truck and trailer being able too handle that size tractor. I use a f350 and don’t think twice about 30,000-32,000 pounds. My truck is setup for this weight. It has the power and more importantly the right brakes to stop fast. The biggest issue would be keeping the transmission cool if it’s an automatic. If you have a good aftermarket cooler you should be fine. Just use your head and be as safe as you can.
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Ksdigger
Bronze Level Joined: 28 Jan 2019 Location: Kansas Points: 59 |
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As an individual vs a common carrier, the law enforcement typically doesn't bother you unless the load is not tied down correctly, lights dont work, etc. Tie down rules require 4 binder chains, typically they are a gold color chain, and 1 chain per 10,000 lbs. 14,000 lbs would require 6 chains. Flag the end of the axles. Any load is considered oversized if it extends past the edge of the trailer whether 8' or 8.5' wide. Oversize load permits are usually $10 for 24 period. Call each state before you leave, they email a permit and off you go.
Also, make sure the truck is tagged to cover the weight of truck, trailer and load combined. 24,000 lbs plus requires a CDL. |
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JohnCO
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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I once moved an 18' dia. grain bin on my New Holland 1049 sp bale wagon about 10 miles across the county. Built some cradles for each side in place of the side racks. Slipped under it, put a cargo strap around it and tilted it down. I did put braces inside to keep it round. Headed down the road with a friend following behind. Saw a City and a County cop, both looked and smiled, guess maybe I was lucky or they were too close to shift change. Biggest problem was getting under a couple RR crossing overhead lights and a stop light. Ended up going around in the opposite lane. It was an adventure but fun none the less!
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4340 |
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Funny you should mention that John, a friend and I move a 10,000 gallon fertilzer tank much the same way. We used a flat bed dump truck, so a little more trouble leaning it on to the truck bed but went OK. But then the Oh ,how tall is that thing. It was in town on a dead end street so no choice about the first 1/2 mile. Then we did a little scouting. May have tickled some cabel TV wires but don't know that we took any down. I think the local officals saw us but didn't want to look.
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