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Alberta Phil
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Points: 3647 |
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Cool project, Dave! Should make a good shop with a little insulation.
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steve(ill)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 77620 |
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So what is the "plan"... work shop with a storage upstairs ? Due to the size of the door im thinking you plan to work on some equipment inside, so OPEN bay center... tools along the side ?
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5637 |
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The wire is piling up, because my access from outside is somewhat arctic in landscape. But at this point, I DID find a lovely piece of material and some clamps to cover most of that big hole to keep the snow on the other side (sorta). At this point, you'll notice that the woodburning furnace is now in a general location where the dryer ductwork comes in. There's electricity conveniently near, and a concrete pad out there on the other side of the tin wall, more on that later... but for now, if I can get this old bugger to host a fire, it should make my work here more tolerable... |
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5637 |
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Eventually, it's clear enough to make other things happen. The
wire supports are clipped together at the top by little metal straps. I
found the best way to disengage those clips, is with a 1-1/4" wrench
about 20" long... just hook between the sides, and pry down, the clip
deforms and releases (mostly.... usually...) and sometimes, it leaves
at an enthusiastic velocity... straight up... Now, bein's that there was lots of snow showing up, I scrambled to move several things that either needed to be in this space for future OR... needed to be out of my way somewhere else, to get this done. The power trowel and welding supplies being in the latter category, the woodburning furnace being in the former. More on them later. I'm gradually working my way towards the far side, pulling sheet, unclipping wire.. and working around the extraction auger blocking the middle of the floor... And this part is kinda like eating an elephant... one bite at a time... |
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5637 |
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Pulling out the zillion screws holding the sheeting down was somewhat tedious. I used the big screwdriver with an open-end wrench to break them loose, then used my impact driver to back them rest of the way out, and a bucket for all the fasteners. They're big sheet-metal screws, and beneath the seam, is a strip of sheet metal about 4ft long, so I've got lots of strips to go with this perforated sheeting... And while I was working away, we got a little snow... But with daylight, I was able to drag most of the sheets out. They're somewhat of a bear to wrestle, as the edges along the radius are fixed to the wall with tiny rusted-out sheet metal screws and fine wire mesh, those screws don't back out, the mesh has to be ripped off. Once pulled out, the remains of the screws snag on the wire support.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3436 |
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Dave, that is a cool project. My late cousin had a property that had 4 or 5 old small bins on it. Think he sold one or two. Made a gazebo out of one and a garage of sorts of another. I wasn't there when he did it but think he cut the 'door' in much the same way you did. I will try to get a pic or two when it warms up, providing I remember to.
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5637 |
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Next, is to start removing the grain-drying floor. It takes a special screwdriver to take out all the metal... a #4 phillips, but with tool flats... As you can see from the discoloration, I just welded a coupling nut to the shank... with an adjustable wrench on this one, taking out the screws is easy. I broke them loose with this, then zipped 'em out with a 1/4" impact driver. |
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DaveKamp
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Edited by DaveKamp - 23 Jan 2022 at 2:20am |
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DaveKamp
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Then it was time to preassemble a breaker panel with two receptacle plugs (a 120v quad, and a 240/50A)... and then hook it up: |
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DaveKamp
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Next, get it fitted up with electricity, because daylight is darned short up here, and temperature ain't warm... Here's the old drying controls. I disconnected it's 100A main (after locking out the feeder from the main pole) unthreaded the conduit, then lifted the cabinet off. Then I re-piped the conduit into the bin with Schedule 80 PVC: |
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DaveKamp
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Next step, was to get some electrical and cutting capacity inside. I
have my big torch kit, and my small welder-generator on a forkliftable
'tote', and I carry it around either on one of my forklifts, or (when
the ground conditions aren't favorable) using the fork face 3-point
attachment on my D-17:
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DaveKamp
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And a little persuasion... And some combined force between my son and I: Now, for darned little of this, did I actually have any help... Nick was home over Christmas Break, and had a few minutes to help me, other than that, I was on my own...
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DaveKamp
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Now, when a guy does this kind of thing, it's important to get
stuff out of the way. I found that out... after I did a bunch of the
work, because I hadn't done this before, and didn't see anyone else's
instructions on it... But here it is, getting introduced to the Stihl TS-4xx Cutquik, with an abrasive blade: |
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DaveKamp
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So here's a new flavor of "Shop Talk". I've been considering this for quite some time, and a variety of circumstances prevented me from making this move, but opportunity and circumstance presented itself, and I jumped in... INterestingly enough, I had very little to go on... I'm certain other guys have done this, but the number of detailed writeups is basically nil. I have a grain-drying bin that is no longer economical to continue using for grain drying. It's a Behlen bin, was built around 1963 or so. It is 27ft in diameter, 20ft tall side walls (5 rings) and about another four feet to the top of the crown. It has four oval-shaped hatches in the top It was fitted with a louvered drying floor on wire zig-zag risers, a 10hp blower and propane burner. There's an extraction auger to withdraw the contents, a sweep-auger to push contents towards the extraction auger. Hanging from the ceiling is a twin-auger stirrator, and up top is a Scattergrain receiving spinner. The access door is oval, center elevated about 7ft above the slab. The bin has a 100A service fed from my main property utility pole, and there's a disconnected and capped, but still intact 1" liquid propane line going to my tank farm. The access stairway is shot, and from the outside, it shows all the typical corrosion gremlins. Most of the bottom ring is in surprisingly good condition, with exception of the area immediately surrounding the drying blower duct... there's some missing metal in that area, and the gap is one of many reasons why it was retired from duty. It DOES, however, have good structural integrity otherwise, the concrete floor appeared to be uncracked, and it is sufficient in size to serve as a automotive and tractor workshop area.
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