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    Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 5:52am
Ah, my yearly 'fun' time...... The 'ignitor' in my garage furnace died. Kinda sad that I KNOW what tools I need and how many bandaids. I keep the garage at 50* as the Kubota's in there 24/7. supposed to be next door...but.......
The 'engineer' who designed this machine NEEDS to come here and FIX it ! 36*F, lights are dim and man there's a LOT of sharp metal 'gotchas' in this box ! Fortunately I have 2-3 spare 'ignitors' on the shelf, above the furnace. Access is rediculous, COULD have place it on the right burner, out in the open, but NO... it's on the left, behind all the wiring and 'computer' and gas lines.....
'engineers'.....
oh well, warm and toasty again...

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I feel the same way about Ford's.

My nephew works in research and development for Ford. Been there a long time.
I don't discuss his job with him. He's got 100# on me and a foot taller. I still think I could take him out if need be. We don't go there.



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How many on here use a fuel oil furnace ?

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Waste oil furnace.
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Had a Ignitor style LP furnace, eventually converted to a Pilot control and changed the program card out to that by the guy that installed it.  Removing the pilot flame was intended to save a WHOPPING $20-40 per YEAR on gas consumption, ended up the ignitors cost enough to offset that along with the excess gas consumption to heat the damn house back up.  MORE enviro lunacy.
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yeah , ignitors should cost me $50 each but I can BARTER !
great 'engineering'... over heat a resistor to ignite the gas, then use it as a 'flame detector' AND let's put the friggin fragile thing ina steel box that rots aways and drops 'bits' onto the ignitor... yup....'engineered' alright.... grrrrrr
I was going to put a shield over it but ran outta bandaids last year....

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My old furnace had one of those same types.  It wasn't to bad, but it had an equally difficult flame sensor and it was about as reliable as the igniter.  But I usually just had to clean it with some typing paper and it would work again.
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I started doing furnace work, part time, in the early '73's. In 1983 I bought out the shop from an old guy that me how to install and service furnaces, and the equipment to make the duct. 
 In 2001 I retired from the construction industry, and started spending the winter to land of warm weather and sunshine, so doing furnace work has fallen buy the wayside.
 So now I'm thing of selling my stock of duct.

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Thinking when do go smaller house(Eventual) will have a Wood fired Furnace, get local boys to cut and supply firewood, maybe go to a DC blower system so can run on a solar array and batteries, that way do not have to rely of Grid for electric or pipelines for gaseous fuels that may no longer exist.  And EPA be damned to show up and tell me to snuff the fires.
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The Amanda furnace I had installed had a ceramic ignitor. The dang thing would fall apart if you passed gas in the next room. I had a couple on the shelf when I scrapped the darn thing. New furnace has been far more reliable that way.
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When I built my house my brother tried to talk me into a outside wood burner and I told him I was building a retirement home, now he buys his wood delivered and his wife talks about firing the woodburner every morning. I have radiant floor heat with gas and a electric furnace, my wife would never be able to fire a woodburner if anything ever happened to me.
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I always told my heating costumers. 
 If you have the trees to cut, the time to cut them, and the ambition to cut it into fire wood, go ahead and put in the outdoor furnace. 

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So, did you repair the ignitor? I have the same issue with my ignitor, and I tried to fix it by myself. Everything seemed to be okay, right until I tried to turn it on. Well, it blew up my damn garage door. I got so freaking angry! I only bought that door, and I liked it very much. I even installed a particular module so I could open it from my smartphone. I've called for the guys from https://www.easyfixnashville.com/ already. I hope they will be able to fix it as soon as possible as I wouldn't say I like to leave it open for the night.

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Years ago when we lived in Wi, we heated the house with a fuel oil furnace, and a fuel oil fired water heater.
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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we use a clean burn used oil furnace in our shop it uses about 1600 to 1800 gallons per season depending how cold the winter is, i keep the shop at 62 f 
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Boy I missed something here.  Keep the Kubota's warm?
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Since the Kubota was forced out of the shop next door, it now resides in the house garage. Wife's new car sits in driveway,24/7/365 .
I keep the garage at 50,makes it eeasier for the tractor to start up and the seat isn't frozen.
The 'smart stat' has a 'safety' feature..if it sees <45*F, it'll turn on even with the mode switch set to OFF. Course it doesn't know I leave the garage door open, and will then come on and heat the neighbourhood..... I've since added a door switch to KILL power to the furnace when the door is open.....
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I installed radiant heat in my 40x40 shop, It was a little more costly at purchase however it is so efficient that I hardly noticed much increase in our lp consumption and I keep it at least 50 year round. I believe it has more than paid for itself and boy do I like walking over and turning that dial when I need a little extra heat.
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