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    Posted: 12 May 2020 at 4:42pm
This is a rare subject for the forum and I don't recall it ever being mentioned. They were made in the mid 60's until about 1970. It's not clear if AC mfg. them or someone else built them for AC.  Anyway, I was asked if they have any value and my reply was probably scrap value unless a collector wants one and then it's still probably scrap.  Anyway, I know where there is one in the TX panhandle and it actually doesn't look too bad considering it may have been parked there (outside) for 50 years.  Comments appreciated.  Thanks.
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Swinfords book states that SBH's were made by Oppel Harvester Company, Boise, Idaho...Wink

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where in the TX panhandle? I'm guessing Hereford/Dimmitt/Friona area, as that was a big sugar beet production area back years ago..
 I get to the Hereford area occasionally,,,
 
 I don't want it, but would like to look, and maybe get a picture or 2
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Michael, no it's actually close to Dalhart.  I have a couple of pictures if you want to PM your e-mail address to me I can forward them to you.  It appears to be a pull type pto driven, maybe one row-I guess they made them up to three rows.  Beets were raised in SW KS years ago and may still be grown in Colorado-I don't know.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Michael V (NM) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2020 at 8:45am
geez,, Dalhart is like 2 steps out my back door..get there quite a bit, bank is there, get most my parts and supplies there...I know a few folks around there.
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You willing to let Micheal V share pictures with the group.


Why does this always happen................. not used in 50 years. I start counting fingers and toes and come up with 1970.......................that was not long ago. Darn that was 50 years ago and I was just a pup.Angry Now the whole day is going to HE!! cause I am old.
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Don't feel bad Ray!---I am there too!
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I was still in high school!  If it has an AC auxiliary engine on it that may be worth something.


The raise lots of sugar beets up here on the MI Thumb.  The harvesters are huge machines.  And the piles are impressive.
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No problem on sharing photos.  I don't have the skills required to post them here so will be sending them to him via 3 e-mails.
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I'll try and get them here
 
 
well,,, I got one here..
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heres another one
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I like to see the pics of all the stuff AC made or rebadged. Pretty neat stuff. Thanks Tracy
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That's cool, thanks for posting! 
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First for me to view such an item. Impressive how broad spectrumed AC had become. So would it dig/loosen crop, then separate from soil or did it require another implement pass to help the process? Love it’s jeep looking tires. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for posting pics. I have no interest in owning but still nice to see another part of a great company and farm history. Tom
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I'm sure there are members on here that can explain the process. I believe the green tops first have to be removed (can be used for cattle feed).  Then the harvesters actually dig the beets out of the ground, shake off as much dirt as possible.  Then they are piled up and/or eventfully hauled the processing plant.  That's got to be the short version and others can explain better.  Check out you-tube for the modern methods but the process seems to be similar.
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They used a flail type mower that would take everything down to the dirt here. So not much left and after the digger was like it had been plowed. The lifters and open slates on the chain (in pictures) lets the dirt fall back to the ground.
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Here's the modern version, of how sugar beets are processed...

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I had a 3 row I could dig 40 ton beets at 6.5 mph with the 190XT.. great machine  
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Looks very similar to a FarmHand
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The latest Old Allis News came today, and contains an advertisement about these harvesters.
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that machine sure wold look nice all  spiffed up and on display at Hutch!
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i would like to see photos of a mar beet mounted on a wd 45 or a d17 ours was mounted on ad17d single row and mounted to awd45d before my time  it got scraped all i have left is some picking wheel parts and all the books i would like to find one to mount on my wd for parades and shows this was big beet country until the 80s 
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Oppel made several products for AC in the Late 60s and 70s. I had just started to work for Allis Chalmers in summer of 1967 when one of our dealers sold a potato harvester to a prison farm in Kansas. There were enough inmates in the field they could have dug potatoes about as fast as the harvester. I did get to have lunch in the prison dining hall!     .
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Those old diggers aren't that much different from the modern ones. There's a farmer out here who runs an old Hesston 3 row that looks kinda like that. In a beet harvest, you have a defoliator run ahead of the digger- it's a bunch of rubber flails that beat the tops off the beets. Then, that machine comes along. There are two angled wheels for each row- they kinda look like a narrow front end on a tractor. They're steel and run a little underground. They lift the beets out of the ground, and flails push them onto some steel rollers that knock the dirt off.

That machine would have been a Cadillac in it's day- it has a basket to carry beets. A lot of the older Heath units out here don't have the tank- they just go straight on a conveyor to a truck. The tank makes them so much more versatile- the unloading conveyor is hydraulic, so you can just shut it off at the ends of the rows while the truck turns around
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My dad built some of those Heath lifters back in the late '70s.
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