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Dave H
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3477 |
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Posted: 19 Jan 2019 at 6:53am |
chas, that might be dangerous for me to help on that wood working. I would be afraid I may loose my concentration.
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chaskaduo
Orange Level Joined: 26 Nov 2016 Location: Twin Cities Points: 5203 |
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I just had to add. [TUBE]9Kw9BHQk4S4[/TUBE]
Edited by chaskaduo - 18 Jan 2019 at 4:47pm |
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1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp
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ac fleet
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2204 |
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In the timber I file a bit, but when I get done the chains come off and go on the Bel-saw grinder to get the teeth even! -- Don't matter how good of a filer you are, you can't get the angles and depth even on the teeth!
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5637 |
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On the saw, I cut a notch into a chunk of trunk, set the brake, and use the file. When I'm done, I pull them off, and they get a visit from the grinder. I have an Oregon. All my saws run 0.050" gauge, 3/8" pitch chain... and at the moment, I buy chains individually, but I'll be buying a bulk roll and a chain tool to make them up as I need them. I don't like to sharpen or change chains while working... I just grab the second, third, and fourth saw... Oh, and I used the new-to-me 038 cutting up the big nasty maple out front... it came to me as the dirtiest chainsaw I've ever seen... darned thing was full of gas that smelled like a mixture of saurkraut and pinapple juice... dumped it out in the driveway, had to pour some fresh gas in it to make it light up then I poured fresh mix in, let it sit for 10 minutes, then set choke and pulled it six times, it popped, opened choke, and it woke right up... gave it 20 seconds of blipping, then one long rip to make sure it was pumping oil (it was) then placed it a 19" diameter limb... it went right through... and kept going for the next hour. Many guys talk trash about some saws, and wave flags of others. I've used Stihls, both older and newer, Echos older and newer... Dolmar, Husky, Efco, Shindaiwa, older Homelites, Makita... and found plenty of good saws. I've also tried a few 'clones'. Department store/big box store saws are frequently not-so-great... inferior materials, difficult to maintain, break easily, don't run well. To me, a 'good' saw, is one that is easy to maintain... doesn't plug up with crap, runs well, idles well, and doesn't fall apart in operation... and of course, doesn't change in design so quick that parts become unobtainium in one year. Lots and lots of products come out of China now... even stuff that's 'assembled in' (other places). Big name manufacturers exhibit substantial quality control, and after that, rigid quality-assurance, on the machinery and components, and yes, there IS a difference in manufacturing quality when those parts are assembled into machines ELSEWHERE. if you happen to buy a saw from a half-brand or overseas 'clone', as a kit, and take the time to assemble it WELL on your own, you'll wind up with a saw that's ALMOST as good as the 'real thing'. You might get comparable performance if you 'blueprint' the clone... or substitute better aftermarket parts here-and-there. If you open up a clone assembled overseas, don't be surprised to find metal shavings in the crankcase, casting flash on the piston and rod, a big glob of grease somewhere full of dirt, grit, or whatever. IF that same assemblage of parts were taken to some other country, and assembled, to get a 'quality brand' name, you bet your bippy that assembly line would clean up the mess and make it better... because they want their assembly business to stay in business. Anybody willing to define the difference between Quality Control, Quality Management, Quality Assurance, and Total Quality Production? Quality control is when you weigh every piston coming down the assembly line, and do a statistical analysis of a large batch of parts, and then figure out where MOST of the parts fall in that group... then you throw out the ones that are NOT within the 'most' percentage. Quality Management is when you look at the thrown out parts, and try to figure out why they're different, before you pitch 'em back into the melting pot. Mebbie figure out if you can do something better about it. Quality Assurance is when the parts are all done, and you go to put 'em together, you find out NONE of them fit for crap, and throw them ALL back in the pot. Total Quality Production means you've realized that building it from the start, with the intention of making a good product, and solving all the problems WHERE they orginate, means that the Quality Assurance guy at the end of the line... doesn't have anything to do.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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wide
Silver Level Joined: 29 Dec 2018 Location: north iowa Points: 169 |
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That jet saw was one of the coolest projects I've seen.
What is everyone using to sharpen their chainsaw? Just using a file? "Get the gullet" Or using an electric sharpener wheel. |
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A-C_220
Bronze Level Joined: 05 Jan 2019 Location: Canada Points: 88 |
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The old McCullochs are good saws, but they will numb your hands after running them a while like any old saw. I've been using a Husqvarna 272XP for firewood lately.
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Robert Musgrave
Silver Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: SE Wisconsin Points: 225 |
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Use a Dolmar 420 w/14" 3/8 LP chain bought in 2012--it replaces a Sachs-Dolmar Model 112 w/ an 18" bar bought in 1985. It helps that I can go to a "smaller" saw while son and son-in-law have the big Makitas! R. Musgrave
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chaskaduo
Orange Level Joined: 26 Nov 2016 Location: Twin Cities Points: 5203 |
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Edited by chaskaduo - 13 Jan 2019 at 1:19pm |
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1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp
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DREAM
Orange Level Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Location: Elberton,GA Points: 1828 |
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Forgot about the Shindaiwas. That 575 is a stout saw.
Used to sell those for a little while. great equipment. Supplier was not the easiest to deal with. Anybody with "dead" Mccullochs can just send em on down here. I got a nice resting place for em. I am currently on the House of Homelite forum, as well as arboristsite.com. Lots of folks with some good experience there. Heard of Lombards, just never seen one. Seen a couple of Remingtons. Not real popular down here. Used to see several Pioneers, but most of those are gone now. I don't really see many old saws, since im not working on em anymore. Don't have much time to go scrounge around yard sales and old dealers back rooms either. Everythings closed by the time I get off work. Definitely want some ear muffs or plugs with older saws. That little Homie is loud as heck too! Mccullochs just sound so good! Rev quick and just moan with the bar buried in some good hardwood! Sometimes I forget the earplugs, but it don't take long to get reminded. Mr Murphy, sounds like you got a nice little hotrod there.
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I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me!
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21460 |
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re:...
Welcome to old age. yeah...I can't pull gas saws either my goto chainsaw is ELECTRIC ! I use it to shorten everything less then 14" round to 10-12" long 'stubbies'. Those I can get onto the ELECTRIC splitter. Arborist dropped off elm and mulberry today , I only burn for fun in firepit..I could heat 24/7/365 with the logs that get dropped off here. Jay
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
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wfmurray
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Bostic NC Points: 1225 |
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Had a 7-10 McCulloch .Had 71 cc motor used it for years.Had usually mac cranking problems,Put elecotronic ign in it and made a world of difference.Must have went through 5 or 6 bars and lots of chains.Got a lightweight Steihl and now can not pull it to crank. Welcome to old age.
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Dusty MI
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Charlotte, Mi Points: 5053 |
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In the 50s the local AC dealer sold Clinton chain saws. I've got the last one my dad had from the late 50s.
Dusty
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ac fleet
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2204 |
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45 different ones here. Main ones are echo cs-310 and cs-8000. have 650-evl's but starters are bad so can't use them. Husky 235 is great little saw. have a bunch of the newer poulans, they work good for me. macs include the eager beaver 2.0's, and 3.7's Homelites xl-2, sxl, sxlao's, 33cc, 38cc ,46cc , etc, 3514, 3816, and the favorite of all time the 8800 There are more that I missed, oh ya the barker, stihl ms-250. its ok since I rebuilt it with china-chink parts!--- thanks ac fleet
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Walker
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: oh Points: 8082 |
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There's a vid on utube where Echo loaned a handful of saws to some of the bigger arborists outfits to be used in comp with comparable sized Stihls. Echo actually won but the guys didn't like the toggle on/off switch and the sliding choke control.
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21460 |
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I heard that one of them has a USB port ! When the engine gets outta whack..you have to take it to the repair place, plug into a computer, pay $100 and it's fixed ! This from an arborist who said I should buy an Echo NOTStihl, as Stihl have gone downhill in the past few years.
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
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Butch(OH)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lucerne Ohio Points: 3829 |
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You got that right, dad told me the same thing 55 years ago. I always keep an old junker to loan out, preferably one that barely runs but the chain will be so dull it wouldn't make sander dust and the gas and oil tanks are kept empty. When they complain I say you got it the same condition it was in when returned by the last borrower |
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Stan IL&TN
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730 |
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Had a couple of Poulans before they got cheap. I think they were an XXV and a 3450 maybe? Next Poulans was so bad I gave it to the SIL. Got a Husqvarnia ( I'm sure that is misspelled) maybe a 350 model, good saw but the best has by far been the Stihl 009 and the MS370 that I use at the farm.
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1957 WD45 dad's first AC
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Walker
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: oh Points: 8082 |
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Walker
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: oh Points: 8082 |
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Husqvarna 372, 370 Echo that runs fantastic after some tweeking and twerking, {IE} get that cat out of the muffler and open the carb and an old Homie EZ that refuses to say enough. A few others are kept in my morgue but not worth mention in their current state.
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Butch(OH)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lucerne Ohio Points: 3829 |
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I have waay too many but have the correct saw for every job, LOL.
Stihl 660, 461, 361, 260, 036, 250, 210. Husqvarna 576. Couple Shindaiwa which are largely unknown but great saws. We don't take extra chains to the woods, we take extra saws |
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21460 |
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I've got two Homelite XL-1 here...mid '70s. Needed to find a parts unit cause the 'contractor' borrowed mine and demoed it... |
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
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mdm1
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Onalaska, WI Points: 2592 |
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I have a 20" Echo CS-590, a Husky 350 that I really did like till I burned it up. An old Craftsman that is my beater saw and finally a Lombard Super Lightning. The Lombard is a tough ole saw, even with synthetic oil smokes like #ell, runs good, sounds like a big block chainsaw but would not care to run it for 8hrs. It can be a killer.
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6126 |
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Got two Stihl 028’s, a Poulan Super 250A and a Poulan 305 that was my Dad’s. They will take care of anything I need to do around the house or farm, mostly keeping me supplied with firewood.
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Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God.
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Tbone95
Orange Level Access Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11388 |
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Had a Deere (Echo) 80 EV. Was a beast. Worked great. Muffler rotted out which gets a little warm on the hand not to mention loud. Looked around here a LOT for parts and couldn't get anything worth working on. Bought a Stihl MS 290 with a 16 inch bar for doing my firewood (15-20 pulp cord per year). Not too bad, but was the most cold blooded dang thing. That has since been modified to cut baleage bales, and bought the updated MS 291 with an 18 inch bar. Small enough to do most anything, big enough to do most anything if you have a little patience. For whatever reason, this one starts a little more readily, but actually pulls a little harder.
There's an old dead McCullough around the farm somewhere, and an even older even deader Poulan that must weigh 20 pounds. I don't really even count those! Edited by Tbone95 - 11 Jan 2019 at 7:28am |
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klinemar
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 7933 |
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Back in the day there was a Homelite dealer 2 miles from me. I was there one day getting a chain ground after I had hit wire in a tree cleaning a fencerow. An elderly man brought a saw in the dealer had sharpened the chain on declaring "This saw won't cut butter"! The dealer picked up the saw looked at the bar and said" Any chainsaw will cut wood unless you put the chain on the wrong way"! We all had a good laugh!
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nella(Pa)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Allentown, Pa. Points: 3081 |
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Have an Echo 650EVL, the same as JD 65EV, bought new 35yrs ago and sawed a lot of fire wood, timbered off 5 acre of woods, fence line trimming, backed over it with my D17(that caused a few yellow parts on it) and loaned it out a few times, still runs pretty much like new. Before that my father had a Remington that worked very well for many years until it burnt in a fire. Remington also made the JD chain saws before Echo did.
An old-timer friend told me one time that there are two things you don't loan out, your chainsaw or your wife!
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Dave H
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3477 |
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Couple of antiques here. Bought a Poulan counter vibe 3400 new, must have been back in the 80's. I will not be able to wear it out. Have heated with wood up until this year. Going to retire it and me from that pleasure at my 76 year mark. One thing you could always bet on is that on first start up it would take exactly 12 pulls. Stihl o1 something with 14 inch blade for light work. Just thinking that that Poulan would make a good boat anchor as heavy as it is. |
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HD6GTOM
Orange Level Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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I bought a Echo over 20 years ago, its cut many cords of wood. I had some 24-36" red elm logs stored off the ground for at least 7 years. I thought the saw got to running real crappy when cutting this stuff. Wasn't running crappy, turns out I took the clutch out. They took the spark plug out looked at it regapped it and put it back in. That was the first time the plug had been out in all those years. Many chains later its still going strong.
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5637 |
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Just dropped the big, mostly-dead maple along side my driveway this morning. Used my Shindaiwa 575 with 24" bar for the drop, Stihl MS-180 with 14" 0.050 bar to lop the limbs smaller than 14"... exhaust has been opened, timing advanced a few degrees, with a sharp blade, it really goes. I've got an Echo CS310 with 14" skinny bar, nice for trimming off the crap, but no modifications- it's rather restrictive in exhaust, but nice and quiet. On the way: Stihl 038AV with 28" bar, and a Stihl 026 that'll need a little cleaning up, the 38 may get a Magnum P&C and some slight machine work... Someday, an Echo CS-2511, a Stihl 056 with 30" bar, and a Stihl MS-880 or 88 Magnum with a 48" bar...
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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klinemar
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 7933 |
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Stihl 461 and 026 which is 28 years old! Just bought a Husqvarna 240 to help the old 026. I like the 240 nice light saw for trimming and small cutting. For the big trees the 461 does the job for me.
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