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First post my Wd puller project.

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Thanks I definitely always lean towards a lighter front. Need to change my habit.

Questions on tires. I am going to buy a complete diesel rear ( transmission to finals). Looks to be a direct bolt on does that sound right?

I am still debating between 13.6 and 15.5 38s

My track I can run 15.5s but some other local tracks I have heard 13.6 for anything 4500lb and under. Opinions on that?


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Ideal weighting/balance is where you can just slide a sheet of paper under the front wheels as you spin out. Good luck hitting that every time !!!
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Thanks for the input. I definitely am still working on my weight placement. This winter I am building a better more adjustable hitch. I also need to start bumping up my psi as I go up in classes.

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it needs more weight on the nose' it will do a lot better' when it comes up like that you lose your drawbar height' your tires are working' if you keep the front down' it will take some motor then. because it will make the tires work more. also looks like the tires are a little soft' may need aired up a tad will also help keep your drawbar height' we run 20'' in' height.
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I like it! You  and the boys have done a lot of work to the tractor.
 Thanks for keeping us up to date.
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Yeah it's been pretty cheap so far. Now I gotta buy tires and rims..... Going to cost more that the tractor lol
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Looks good and you didnt have to spend a fortune.
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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So overall I was very happy with the progress this season. I am slowwly getting to where I want to be.

The motor runs great and have great power. I have most everything dialed in besides tires.... Need bigger tires.

My local track has a 15.5 38 limit and my competition all runs 13.6 or 15.5. I am always just a few feet behind them with my little 26s

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Here she is all loaded up for a pull.

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So the tractor runs great and I started this past season pretty happy. I was still moving a lot of things around on the tractor. I still couldn't quite get the front end light in 3500 so I started looking for a wc lightweight front pedistal

Here is what I found



I cut the 1/2 flange off the back. The lightweight front is 100lbs lighter.


Here it is mounted up

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Awesome good job bet it'll pull as cool as it looks
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I don't think it looks too bad.

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I wanted to continue to lighten up the tractor and the nose was still pretty heavy in the light classes.

I decided to run small 12" trailer wheels and tri ribs on the front



The bolt pattern was not the same so I had to open up the center hole and then drill new holes in the hubs and through bolt them.

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Here it is all painted up.

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I found a cheap set of firestones that were wider and mounted them on a set of combine wheels.

The tires are 14.9 26s give me a little more bite.

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the combine weights have a smaller rpm drop before it kicks in I believe
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So once we we're ready to try to fire it I was very nervous.

We puller the started handle and it fired right up..... I mean like sat there ideling perfect. The motor runs amazing. Idles great revs good. I had a few small oil leaks but I couldn't believe how great this thing ran. I got very very lucky with this motor considering it was at a salvage yard.

The governor works great to. It's hard to explain but it is a much touchier throttle. It really snaps open hard but then hits max rpm quick. It works fine just touchy compared to the tractor gov.

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I gave it an oil change and wired the fuel pump and ignition to a simple toggle switch.

The one thing I didn't really take any pictures of what the governor setup. This part was making me the most nervous. I didn't really understand what others were doing to this to convert to the tractor style governor.

I decided I was going to try the combine gov and if I didn't like how it acted I would figure out to change it over.

With a little work I was able to make the combine gov work. Its really hard for me to explain what I had to do so if anyone wants more info I will have to take some pics.

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Good thread! Glad you have the boys helping you!
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I am running the factory gleaner carb but with a cone style filter and a 12 volt fuel pump.



I was originally going to run and alternator but later ditched it and just run a battery and charger it between pulls.

I am also running a 4" straight pipe. It's pretty loud.



Here it is mostly buttoned up.
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So you have to do something about the oil lines so that the steering shaft clears.

Here is what the factory gleaner lines looked like.



Here is what I did.



I actually redid them one more time to make it easier to pull the dipstick.

This particular gleaner motor already had a block off plate on the fuel pump hole in the block so I didn't have to mess with it.
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So my stock pulley was open all the way through the center. I could slide it on but when I lined it up with indent on the crankshaft it was about 5/8" to far forward (if I remember correctly).

I measured the distance I needed to move the hole on the pulley.

I took the pulley to a local machinist. I had him drill a new hole on the opposite side the correct distance from the end and he tapped it to accept the factory bolt.

Well worth the 20$ he charged.



I can't tell from the pic but I think it was takes during mockup.

Also used the factory water pump just had to drill out the holes.
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So I will try to cover what I did and why if you have any questions please ask

Here are the 2 thermostat housings. I ran the factory WD one so everything would clear.



Here is a side by side picture of the 2 pulleys.

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So just as you guys said the motor was a direct bolt in. Absolutely no issues. The engine does touch the framerail on the right side but barely so I didn't notch the rail.



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Now it's time to see if the gleaner would fit.



We put a new clutch in it while it was apart.



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Here it is back together



This is one of my favorite pics. My son would do his homework on the work bench while I worked on the tractor. He was motivated to get it done so he could help.
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While I had that section out I had to make block off plates for the hydraulic pump, PTO box, hand clutch, and flat belt pulley openings.

Here is the one for the hydraulic pump.

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Once I had this section gutted I was ready to put it back together.



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I thought I had more pics of the hand clutch removal but can't find them at the moment.

Here is a picture of the housing with the hand clutch out. I also removed everything the large cross shaft too. Figured might as well if it's not needed.



Here is the shaft that goes into the transmission



I had a hard time coming up with a coupler for this.
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Now onto removing the bell housing and hand clutch housing section. All pretty straight forward.







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