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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 5:19pm |
Does anyone know anything about these wheels? Thanks, Joe
I found this pic with these wheels on an unknown tractor. They look to be exstensions.
Edited by mdtractormechanic - 26 Nov 2011 at 7:08pm
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 6:19pm |
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Those are cool. No idea what they fit. Glad I don't have them or I'd have to buy a tractor to put them on.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 6:21pm |
I was going to guess that they were 'UC' rear steel, until I noticed that the wheels on the UC have 6 bolt locations. Not 8 bolt locations like the steel in your pictures.
Might not be for an allis.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 6:30pm |
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3 rows of lugs is kinda odd.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 6:35pm |
Here is an Avery with a big 8 pattern. Hard to tell how big yours are.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 6:41pm |
Maybe Cockshutt.
That pic didn't work.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 7:22pm |
8 n ford i know of 3 sets
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 7:27pm |
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Not for 8N or 2N, they are 6 bolt.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 7:32pm |
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Joe, I've never seen a tractor like that, what is it? Do you have a side pic of it? Don't usually see skeletons and flats mated up.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 9:19pm |
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Maybe Cockshutt.
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Lonnie, I'm impressed with your knowledge of tractors. The tractor in the above picture turns out to be a 1929 Cockshut Hart-Parr 18-28 according to 'Vintage Farm Tractors' By Ralph W. Sanders. These steel wheels are also found on some Olivers but with a different attachment setup.
Look hard enough online and you can find almost anything. So I guess I answered my own question...lol.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 9:34pm |
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The tractor in your above picture is actually from 1935 or later. Oliver began production of the 18-28 in 1929, but Cockshutt didn't start selling the Oliver 18-28 in Canada until 1935. The Cockshutt name cast into the top rad tank didn't appear until sometime in 1936. Cockshutt continued to sell this tractor, by now known as the Cockshutt 80, until 1946. In 1947 they came out with their own tractor which was the Cockshutt 30.
(From the book "About Cockshutt" by Wm. H. Cockshutt.)
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 9:37pm |
"Help Indentifying Steel Wheels"
You can idenfify a steel wheel because it's made out of steel instead of aluminum.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 9:38pm |
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Cockshutt Plow Company in Canada sold the Allis Chalmers 20-35 until the mid 1930's when they replaced it with the Oliver. They also sold the Oliver 70 here as a red painted Cockshutt 70. New nose piece with the Cockshutt name and new decals.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 9:39pm |
I said idenfify.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 9:40pm |
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Jeff: I never would have guessed that, eh. LOL
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 9:46pm |
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As to identifying the wheels, which was the original question, They look to me like a made up set. The original skeleton wheels appear to have had the centers cut out and an old wagon rim from a wood-wheeled wagon welded in and then the tabs welded on to the inside of that to fit the Cockshutt 80 cast hubs; if those wheels are from that tractor in the picture. Maybe an Amish conversion from the original rear rubber on the '80'??
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 9:48pm |
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I agree with the Oliver idea. I think they would be for the standard tread Oliver 80. IF they were close to MO, I would be very interested in them.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 9:49pm |
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Posted: 26 Nov 2011 at 9:51pm |
On closer examination, I think Phil is right (again) Look at the picture on the link attached. http://www.johnweeks.com/tour/oliver/pages/hpoca2010-hp-18-27-narrow.html
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Posted: 27 Nov 2011 at 10:27am |
Alberta Phil wrote:
The tractor in your above picture is actually from 1935 or later. Oliver began production of the 18-28 in 1929, but Cockshutt didn't start selling the Oliver 18-28 in Canada until 1935. The Cockshutt name cast into the top rad tank didn't appear until sometime in 1936. Cockshutt continued to sell this tractor, by now known as the Cockshutt 80, until 1946. In 1947 they came out with their own tractor which was the Cockshutt 30.
(From the book "About Cockshutt" by Wm. H. Cockshutt.)
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Thanks Phil, Here is my source which is confusing; http://books.google.com/books?id=twt3arApXLMC&pg=PA156&lpg=PA156&dq=1929+Cockshut+Hart-Parr+18-28&source=bl&ots=G8y494-1q2&sig=Jpc0dtB5fjhEqVknMILfIYfVxjk&hl=en&ei=qWLSTu63N6Ti0QG99uka&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=1929%20Cockshut%20Hart-Parr%2018-28&f=false
As for the wheels, I see what you mean about the modification. So they are from an Oliver then? I was thinking the may have been aftermarket. Maybe I should get them for future use.
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