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drivers license requirements for 10k+ trailer

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shameless dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 2022 at 9:54pm
oh....and those folks don't have that 2 ton truck anymore either, the flatbed company that mounted the bed had to move the plastic fuel tank so the bed would fit, they put it along side the exhaust pipe on one side...going up Big Thompson Canyon in CO, the heat melted the gas tank and the truck went up in flames, burnt that truck to the ground! we were able to get the trailer unhooked and a passer-by pulled the truck away from the trailer. no horses lost! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Calvin Schmidt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 2022 at 9:42am
Interesting thread. I have an unrestricted ACZ drivers license issued in Ontario. I am qualified to drive anything including doubles up to 140,000 lbs gross weight except double 53' trailers and have done so for more than 50 years. I had the same issue getting a straight answer about double towing with my RV trailer. Finally after two offices couldn't come up with an answer, they told me to call the scale. Simple answer. I can do anything the big trucks can do. My rig is a single wheel pickup, 40' fifth wheel camper, and a 12' utility trailer for the golf cart and parts. Total maximum vehicle rating add up to 31,000 lbs but I will weigh less than that. The weight on the RV axles is over 10,000 lbs. All axles and tires along with pin weight will be below maximum ratings. In Ontario gross combination weight is carried on the tow vehicle plate which in my case is 24,400 lbs. Have a farm plate which is unrestricted for personal use.  Total length is 75'. Have made the trip to Portland and then to Pontiac GOTO in 2018 with no issues and am planning to do the same to  Baraboo. Due to reciprocity, I am qualified to run a 140,000 lbs gross B train in Michigan. Should I expect any problems ? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shyatzu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 9 hours 34 minutes ago at 6:04am
I got pulled over once and the trooper asked about trailer weight; I carry a copy of the trailer’s rated capacity and registration now just to avoid any hassle if they check.
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I just travelled to the Allis Swap meet in Missouri this past March with my Astro pulling a 40' trailer and interacted with a few officers at rest areas.  Most wanted to look at my old cabover. With NON-Commercial written clearly on the door only the one in Illinois asked to see my license. He made a comment about the NON CDL class A and said by federal law whatever my state issued, every other state had to honor due to federal reciprocity agreements as long as I was using the NON-Commercial license in accordance with guidelines as issued I could travel the lower 48 without any problem. I have the needed Sir Brake Endorsement. 
 The only other question I was asked was "who did all the stuff on the trailer belong to"
 This same officer noticed the annual safety inspection stickers on both the tractor and trailer and said, "have a safe trip" 


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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 3 hours 2 minutes ago at 12:36pm
I got the stares as to Big Blue, as the wife and I stopped for lunch when returned from Eureka Springs, MSHP and Brown Shirts in a St. Robert(Ft Lost in the Woods) FF Joint as they left walked ALL Around the Rig, MSHP noted and pointed to PRIVATE CONVEYANCE marking, NOT FOR HIRE and they walked on.  Is NOT required Licensed as a Interstate Commerce truck, is MO Beyond Local Plate, covers Truck and trailer where I am at 34,400-36,000 depending on water tanks loads.  Is still NOT a Commercial Vehicle, but as has Air brakes requires a Class A CDL for the GVWR and Air Brake endorsement for the system.  Legal 48 lower, AK and Canuckistan should I ever go there.  Truck weighs 20,000, empty trailer 14,300, M'cycle at 1000 plus sundries and crap.

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Hey Dave, sorry if I misunderstood, but are you saying you have to have an endorsement for air brakes? Or do you have to have an endorsement for air brakes due to the weight?
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