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    Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 4:05pm
I am wondering if anyone has a picture of the back-end of a D10 or a diagram? My Dad acquired a D10 and several of the hydraulic hoses were removed, we are trying to figure out where and how the hoses are connected, any help is appreciated, thanks. We don't have a manual and I don't know how easy or hard it is to buy one for a D10.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PaulB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 4:39pm
Any AGCO dealer should be able to get all the manuals you need for a D10 (Operators, Parts & Service). There are 3 different Operators manuals covering the Series I , II  & III.
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The AGCO parts book online may be helpful.
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Manuals are cheap and easy to find on e-bay.

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What is your serial #?
Or post a picture of your D10 Rear.

I can take some pics of mine if you need it.

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Image from Agco parts book

https://na.apb.agcocorp.com/p/agcoallis/79001551/l/208?




Edited by Charlie175 - 15 Sep 2021 at 6:00am
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The were quite a few variations on the hydraulic systems on the D10/12.  When you look at a manual you need to make sure that you are looking at the right hydraulic system for your tractor's serial number.  The reprint manuals can be tough to follow in this regard.
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Originally posted by Charlie175 Charlie175 wrote:

Image from Agco parts book

https://na.apb.agcocorp.com/p/agcoallis/79001551/l/208?

That's what the back of my D-10 series III looks like.


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Thanks everyone for taking the time for some input. The serial # is D10 2004 which is an early one. These series 3 diagrams look very different for sure. The tractor is about 7 hours driving time away from me so I can't take a fresh picture. I was there and did take pictures of it only about two weeks ago, unfortunately it did not include the lower part of the back end. Oh well, we will solve this with a bit of time... 
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Yours would be a 1960 year model, late series I. Is the pump in the rear or mounted on the engine?
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Originally posted by Joe(TX) Joe(TX) wrote:

Yours would be a 1960 year model, late series I. Is the pump in the rear or mounted on the engine?
The pump is at the rear, right side.

Thanks...  Eric


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I can't find a diagram for the early ones

Edited by Charlie175 - 16 Sep 2021 at 6:47am
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The picture Charlie175 posted is definitely a Series III.  The serial number for a Series III should be D10-9001 or higher.  D10-2004 would be a Series I and would not have the rear mounted gear type hydraulic pump shown in the picture.  It would either have an engine mounted pump or the CA/WD type pump at the rear.  Unfortunately the AC manuals do not give a good illustration of the overall hydraulic system for the early D-10/12.  

If you have the CA/WD type pump (with traction booster) the plumbing should be pretty much the same as a CA.


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Eric B - I took some pictures of my Series I D-12.  I'll try to attach them here.  If that doesn't work send me a PM with your Email address.
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RMD, thank you for the pictures you posted, it makes me think that your pump is the same as the controls are definitely the same. The junction by the seat looks to be the same... as the one line goes to the dash for the gauge. On Dad's D10, the right cylinder has a 'tee'... to accommodate a second hose. You'd think to the other side for equal supply to both cylinders but it seemed that the hose coming off the left cylinder was not meant to reach over to the other side... somewhat confusing. Being that I'm far from the tractor right now, makes these pictures to be really valuable as I will need to explain to Dad over the phone where the hoses connect. He doesn't have an iphone or internet.

Thank you again RMD and to everyone for your helpfulness!!  
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