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    Posted: 22 Nov 2017 at 7:22pm
Thinking of getting an inexpensive code reader (OBD1) for my '89 F250 instead of trying to count flashes or needle sweeps. Are these worthwhile or just a waste of money? Thanks in advance,
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What does one cost  ? I bought my OBDii for about $30 ,a decade ago.. I know '1' predates '2', but looking at numbers is a LOT easier than 'was that 2 beeps or 2 , dnag do it again...' !
Life is short, spend YOUR money before the kids get it !! Beside they might like the reader when they get the truck....hehehe..

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I bought one about 5 years ago. It was from SEARS and cost about $90. They are more plentiful now and probably a little cheaper.  The "govt" set up some standard ODB-II code  20 years ago that all companies follow.. The code reader will work on almost ALL cars and trucks, probably since 1998 or so ???   You will get a Pxxxx  4 digit code with a small explaination of possible problem.. You have to do a little study to figure out the exact cause... Example P0304 is "misfire on #4 cylinder... Don't tell you if  its the sparkplug, coil, wire, or maybe lack of fuel.. A second code might help narrow that down if you get two codes... Its not EXACT, but does give you an area to look at.
 
There are also "codes" for transmission shifting and Air Cond problems.. Most of the generic code readers don't cover those...... and the more expensive units can record "real time data" so you can look at the reader while engine is running and see the fuel pressure, fuel trim, misfire in real time, etc........... mine don't do that.


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All light duty vehicles (i.e. less than 8,500 pounds) sold in North America since 1996, as well as medium duty vehicles (i.e. 8,500-14,000 pounds) beginning in 2005, and heavy duty vehicles (i.e. greater than 14,000 pounds) beginning in 2010,[1] are required to support OBD-II diagnostics, using a standardized data link connector, and a subset of the SAE J/1979 defined PIDs (or SAE J/1939 as applicable for medium/heavy duty vehicles), primarily for state mandated emissions inspections.
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HF has several of different levels of capability.  I've thought about getting one but just haven't gotten there yet.  My plan is to buy one and try it to see what it does and return/exchange it if it's inadequate.  Maybe I'll buy one and wrap it and put it under the tree from Santa!Big smile

Friend of a friend has one that reads Anti lock brake codes.  He set it up and took the car for a drive.  When he got back he new which wheel it was coming from.  I'm thinking that's a little more than I need.  I bought a new sensor and when I took it apart to change it, the new hub bearing I had just previously installed had broken and grease oozed onto the end of the sensor.  I replaced both parts anyway.


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Hubert, your truck is the older ODB-1 as you said... Newer are ODB -2 ...... You can buy an el-cheapo reader for $15-20. that basically is ON- READ- OFF ... It will probably be an ODB-2 version. Make sure it can read the OLDER ODB1 codes.
 
For $30- 40 you can get a 4-5 button reader that does a LOT MORE, but not sure that will help on an ODB-1 code ?  Maybe? ....... if you get a newer car or truck (Someday) the more expensive unit might be a benefit to read real time data.
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Amazon has one, Ford specific OBD 1, for under $30 which will be less expensive that throwing parts at it if I have a problem.
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shucks Hubert....you already wasted a bunch of money when ya boughts that ferd! what's a little more wasted? lol
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85 to 95 (OBD1) era Fords are kinda 'funny' about trying to diag a code.
I think the engineers were all high when they thought that up.

You can get the code fine but without any data to see you may end up chasing your tail on a few things. Get the code and definition of such and look for the obvious first.
Such as what they term the wiggle test.

Had a 93 Ranger once that kept throwing a MAF related code. Data and pin tests looked OK but at 45 the trans would jump in and out of torque converter lockup. Took it to the trans shop and they said it was a vacuum leak/lean, trans was OK. BS.....I've been all over this thing. Finally I took the ECM out and opened it up and a capacitor ruptured.
Found a reman and all was well.
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Hubert, why not wait until you need one.  That think might run another 10 years now without a problem.  LOL
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Hubert......read your other thread on the other Ferd.
How many you got anyway?
Do we need to call somebody. Is there such a thing as Fordanon.

I drive a 98 Dodge PU which is really unusual for me.
First and last but it hauls my butt around.
I just think nice thoughts and tell it what a wonderful truck it is and
it hasn't given me to much grief. Bout once a month gets a little grumpy.
Throw a Midol in the tank and all is well.


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Bought a super cheapie at Harbor Freight years ago, has multiple plug style connectors and a LED that does the flashes, was a couple bucks and still use it on neighbors old stuff.
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Originally posted by fixer1958 fixer1958 wrote:

Hubert......read your other thread on the other Ferd.
How many you got anyway?
Do we need to call somebody. Is there such a thing as Fordanon.

I drive a 98 Dodge PU which is really unusual for me.
First and last but it hauls my butt around.
I just think nice thoughts and tell it what a wonderful truck it is and
it hasn't given me to much grief. Bout once a month gets a little grumpy.
Throw a Midol in the tank and all is well.

Fixer, I might just need some counseling. The '99 is my daily driver and the '89 my BIL gave me just before he passed away and it stays at the farm. But...... but, I have an '87 150 as backup and I bought my wife a 2013 F150 last year. But don't tell Shameless, he will think I really need some help.
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We refer to them things as road dumpsters!
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The kicker on 95 and back is they will be mfr specific for the most basic ones. The little better will have a swappable cable so they can be used on more than one brand.
When the  mfrs gave us live data streaming that made diagnosis a bunch easier...
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LMAO @ John!
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Shameless, I think you need to go back to town and do some more Black Friday shopping.
You too, John.
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Aw Hubert they all have plenty of coin. They must have to be able to drive a Chevy. Now lets stand back and see how much dust that raises. 
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Originally posted by LeonR2013 LeonR2013 wrote:

Aw Hubert they all have plenty of coin. They must have to be able to drive a Chevy. Now lets stand back and see how much dust that raises. 

Shameless must be busy sharpening his poking stick or he's out shopping for another Chebby. Maybe he's looking for one with a heated tailgate.
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Yeah, remember a couple weeks ago Shameless was talking about those pickups at a city sale, guess if you own a Cheby you have to have a couple parts machines to keep it running....
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I did pick up sum new grease for the "machine" at TSC Friday
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