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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8454 |
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I have an old undershot muffler off the 8N, and I want to put a bend in it so I can convert it to vertical (so I can run a All-Crop with it). How do I go about doing this? I tried it once before, and even while being very careful with low heat, it developed a hole in the pipe.
Anyone ever bend exhaust tubing and have a good method? Thanks! |
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Dans 7080 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Points: 1146 |
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Exhaust pipe bender I the only way. It would be easier to buy the bends and weld or clamp them together.
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farmboy520 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jun 2016 Location: Beason, IL Points: 553 |
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I would go to your local exhaust shop and ask them how much they would charge for them to make the bends for you.
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 87133 |
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that's what I do.. buy a 90 degree elbow and wire feed weld it as needed.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Michael V (NM) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2458 |
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$33.00 from ASAP, PN 100567 ....
really ought to find ya a WD,,theres lots of them around and usually don't go for much... |
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3800 |
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easier to get a orange tractor and be done with the N
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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In my 2015 ASAP catalog there are several options including 100567 which is the bent pipe, a brace, and the muffler. or really a muffler with bent pipe.
I'm not sure the bent pipe is strong enough, from my experience the pipe and the upright muffler will get bent hitting tree limbs and maybe tall corn. I made an assembly for my MF-135 decades ago because I didn't think it was a good idea for the low mounted muffler to be leaving corn stalks glowing while plowing standing stalks. Looks plenty rusty from being on the tractor probably 20 years or more. I have bent the pipe and the muffler hitting things up top. Gerald J. |
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TimNearFortWorth ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014 |
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Muffler shop would make short order of that and could make you 2 or 3 pieces as a variant so you don't have to go back. We installed 60+ new tie stalls when we took out the original cement in a early 1900's built dairy barn with wooden stanchions growing up. Dad did not like the gauge of ready made stanchion materials at the time and with a little research, bought the pipe to his liking and had the local muffler shop bend them to form pretty quick.
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Gary Burnett ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 3059 |
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On my IH 464 I took off the piece that bolted to the manifold and got a machine shop to weld a pipe nipple to it and then used black pipe to route the exhaust and put on a muffler.
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LeonR2013 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Location: Fulton, Mo Points: 3500 |
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Creston, you can fill the pipe with sand, then heat and bend it around a round object. You'll only have moderate success doing it this way though.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8454 |
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Nah ![]() An 860 is what I need! ![]() |
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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what you need is a slap up side the.....lol
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8454 |
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I'd rather have the "Power to keep my combine humming" Lol
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Gary Burnett ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 3059 |
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Nothing like jumping out the pan into the fire(LOL) |
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8454 |
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Lol
Speaking of "into the fire", note it has the undershot exhaust (In a wheat field), which seems to worry everyone nowadays lol
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8567 |
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if your after function not form,you can heat inside of bend and make a wrinkle bend
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8454 |
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I'm after function. I might try that. I'll only use the vertical muffler for a couple days, only because the farmer who owns the field where I'm combining doesn't want the undershot muffler in his field. "Fire danger".
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3800 |
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creston, since your moving up you might as well find one with the SOS trans then you can maximize throughput and minimize loss by keeping the combine full at all times
also you can pick up tubing bends at napa or local auto store and weld on for a few $$ Edited by CAL(KS) - 04 May 2017 at 8:17am |
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8454 |
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Lol
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12126 |
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Correction CAL, that's POS transmission!
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3800 |
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for sure LOL
At my previous mechanic job, my bosses father who still worked part time, had worked at a Ford dealership for many years and they were kind of our specialty. I usually let the old man work on them as I would do the bigger tractors, heavy equip etc. I didnt mind one bit, but we did have several SOS tractors that we repaired the trans in and he got them fixed! Edited by CAL(KS) - 04 May 2017 at 8:34am |
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24572 |
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OK.... how about ADDING pipe to the end of the original pipe ? Something bent like a 'J' that slides onto the existing pipe and bolted to the tractor. Maybe a pipe clamp to hold it onto the tail pipe.
This way, after harvest, you can unbolt the 'extension' and hang up in barn until needed. the tractor would become 'normal' again. Jay |
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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The first versions of the POS transmission were really POS. Later versions SOS did work and survive. The chief engineer at Ford refused to sign off on the early versions because he thought they were junk. Cost him his job. He moved to Deere at Waterloo and was in charge of their Power Shift transmission for the 3020 and 4020 which have proven to be reliable transmissions. He worked at Deere until retirement many years later.
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1mathom1 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 01 Oct 2013 Location: Oklahoma Points: 87 |
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If I read this right, you are wanting to put vertical exhaust on an 8n. Yesterday's tractors has the whole set up for $36 and change.
If you are wanting to go vertical at the end of the existing pipe....I got nothing. Maybe a piece of flex exhaust pipe? I did that on a yard tractor once...worked fine. |
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CAL(KS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3800 |
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On second thought, skip the 560 and go straight to the 6000 Commander.
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12126 |
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Yes, I've heard that before. How new did a Ford have to be to have a good one? We had a Ford 6000 with that miserable POS transmission in it, and yes, it did fail miserably. One of many disasters with that tractor. The hydraulic system were never really right. We weren't the original owners, so I don't know if they were ever right, but assume they were OK as it rolled out the factory door. They were never right for us. The brakes had 2 modes: free and locked! Made the poor SOB on a hay wagon have some serious sea legs. The first time we went to use the 3 point, we lowered the arms, attached the brush hog, and raised the arms. About 1/2 way up, the tractor began to labor and nearly stalled. With the engine shut off for about 4 days, we could finally work the lever back and forth enough to lower the brush hog. Boy, she was a beautiful running thing when it was working ok. Loved to chop corn with it, when the sos worked right, keep the flame coming about 3 inches out of the pipe! Had a bucket seat from a chevy vega bolted onto it because the original had rusted out! Edited by Tbone95 - 04 May 2017 at 10:05am |
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12126 |
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Looking at pictures, I'm pretty sure ours was the "commander" type, and I remember the 2 different engine RPM with the PTO markings....but I can't say for sure and don't know what year it was.
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HudCo ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jan 2013 Location: Plymouth Utah Points: 3865 |
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8,9,2, has a bevaled flange on the manifold and you can buy all of the exhaust pipes for them cheap so i think if it was me i would buy a 2 new manifold clamps 1 to repalce the one you cut off and one when you put it back to normal get a new header pipe muffler and tail pipe.then you will have a nice quit tight system when you put it back. now take the old header pipe to the muffler shop or a place that bend hyd.tubing because there benders wont wrinkle the tube, bend a 180 by the flange then weld a piece of 10ga. in center of the radius to keep it from bending then a strap over to a head bolt, muffler on top with a turn out pointed forward
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allischalmerguy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Deep River, IA Points: 2893 |
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Neat story Gerald. Thanks!
Pastor Mike
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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8454 |
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I need something that hooks straight to the manifold, as I'm trying to get away from the undershot muffler to satisfy the farmer who owns the wheat field where I'll be cutting. I might end up just buying a kit. I found a straight pipe kit for twenty something dollars at ASAP, and I figure if I put a 45 degree elbow on top and point it away, it won't bother me too much. It's only for a few days a year, anyway.
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