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    Posted: 21 Sep 2020 at 9:21am
it would seem the word  respect has no meaning anymore.  people want to call donald trump all sort of names but he holds the  highest position in the world. like him or not the position should be respected. would seem some on here worship a fellow named george who was a felon and now is being made a martyr. sure feel sorry for the younger generation if the democrats get in power for sure
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I agree.

I just wish we as conservatives would have led that effort by example. Not necessarily naming anyone here, but saw the same thing happen to Obama. Some of the things I've heard said about him are. . . .not something you would say to a president of the USA if you respected the position.
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My recollection is this behavior started with Reagan. The press conference that took place during the Iran/Contra incident was embarrassing. Downright rude. Press then held Reagan with same low regard as they do now with Trump. The Teflon president......could make nothing stick to him.

But Reagan went on to win a 2nd term with a 49 state landslide. Lets hope for a repeat now.
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My problem with Trump: As far as RESPECT goes, you earn respect by your actions, and you respect for others. He started his Campaign with NO respect for any of his Primary challengers, Then it has gone down hill from their, He has no respect for anyone that disagrees with him, and some who do agree with him. So tell me how you think people should respect him when he is the way he is? As far as respect goes I think out of respect for Ginsburg there should be NO discuss about her replacement until after she has been laid to rest. But Friday night at my grandsons football game a gentlemen sitting 2 rows behind me says " Hey I just gone a text that the Bitch just died" Until we get respect and God back into peoples lives things will only get worse. And yes I clearly stated why I have NO respect for Trump.
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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

I agree.

I just wish we as conservatives would have led that effort by example. Not necessarily naming anyone here, but saw the same thing happen to Obama. Some of the things I've heard said about him are. . . .not something you would say to a president of the USA if you respected the position.


 Hey Tbone, I look at it a bit differently, oboogerturd was on a mission to destroy this country at any cost, he was or is no better than the pos that drove the planes into the towers or the raghead with an RPG waiting to kill American troupes. He deserves no respect from me at all, just because the screwballs of this country put him in the highest office does not make him respectable, he was just a shytehead with his feet on the desk in the Oval Office.
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Originally posted by Tad Wicks Tad Wicks wrote:

Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

I agree.

I just wish we as conservatives would have led that effort by example. Not necessarily naming anyone here, but saw the same thing happen to Obama. Some of the things I've heard said about him are. . . .not something you would say to a president of the USA if you respected the position.


 Hey Tbone, I look at it a bit differently, oboogerturd was on a mission to destroy this country at any cost, he was or is no better than the pos that drove the planes into the towers or the raghead with an RPG waiting to kill American troupes. He deserves no respect from me at all, just because the screwballs of this country put him in the highest office does not make him respectable, he was just a shytehead with his feet on the desk in the Oval Office.

You are factually correct, but to me misses the overarching point. Basically, what you just said to me means you disagree with pinball. Pinball stated the position should hold respect.

I can't friggin' stand Obama, not in the slightest.   I see Lonn chimed in, agreeing with you, but for crying out loud Lonn voted for the guy! Lonn has wised up immensely since then, all good.

I didn't like ANYTHING Obama stood for in "politics". Ever.
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re: So tell me how you think people should respect him when he is the way he is?
Because in SPITE of all the antiTrump talk and actions, he's Making America Great Again.. Glacially slow ,due to constant 24/7 resistance by others, he's been pulling America out of the toilet.... You may not like him personally, BUT as the POTUS, he's the first one in a very long time, that actually tries to do what's best for Americans.

re: Ginsberg. Get a replacement PDQ ! Even before she's in the ground. Consider you're on a plane, and the pilot dies from a heart attack. Would you DEMAND he be buried BEFORE the copilot took over ?? The BUSINESS of running a country should not STOP just because one person dies. NO one is that important.
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

re: So tell me how you think people should respect him when he is the way he is?
Because in SPITE of all the antiTrump talk and actions, he's Making America Great Again.. Glacially slow ,due to constant 24/7 resistance by others, he's been pulling America out of the toilet.... You may not like him personally, BUT as the POTUS, he's the first one in a very long time, that actually tries to do what's best for Americans.

re: Ginsberg. Get a replacement PDQ ! Even before she's in the ground. Consider you're on a plane, and the pilot dies from a heart attack. Would you DEMAND he be buried BEFORE the copilot took over ?? The BUSINESS of running a country should not STOP just because one person dies. NO one is that important.

Hmm.. Seems they might have thought of this:

Under 28 U.S.C. § 1, as well as the court's Rule 4, six justices are needed for a quorum. That means that if more than three justices are unable to participate in a case for some reason — such as a conflict of interest that requires recusal — the Supreme Court lacks the power to decide a case.May 7, 2018
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If you haven't noticed, the country is in the midst of a not so soft civil war and it's about to heat up. Obama is a big part of it. Respect, I don't think so.
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This is so hilarious on so many levels!  I guess you don't remember what your folks and most likely yourself  said when Obama held the office?  Turn about is free play!  Even attacking his wife and children.  And now the honorable people running for this office.  Do they really need to be called these childish names?    It appears to be the way of the times and, maybe when your side on here stops it will be a lot nicer on here?
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Jonnie the fool was the one thAT SHUT THIS FORUM DOWN AND KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING. (Oops, caplocks oh well)
 yea his truely, jonnie made a post back on January 4th 2013 labeled, " 'KILL OBAMA!'" in big letters...  and knew that would get some action... WHY?  Got this site shut down for several hours before it finally came back on with that topic scrubbed.   WHY did he do it? He claimed we said kill obama... As far as I knew we considered bummer an anti-american president, a usurped president that really had no credentials worthy to be in office... only thing he qualified for was community organizer, as a member of preacher, jerimia wright 'god dam america' church, (which he quit quite quickly), and had black skin and only half black in his blood... which he got the no bell piece prize for .   And the committie later wished they had not given him that prize because he was a disgrace to the honor of it... and he bowed down to other countries, continually drawing lines in the sands and backing up... tried to make this country look like a third world country too in the end.
 But the fact was and is still, bummer was not what he could have been. just a bought and paid for mouthpiece for the likes of George Sorass and the other echelons behind the curtains that were pulling the strings and making many elected officials rich.  
 Trump is not bought and paid for like the bum was... bummer was on the take. now look how rich he has become since leaving office. ;-) ....
  Fact remains that I do not recall anyone saying "kill obama" like jonnie boy claims, ...but I did point the fact out that obama would be safe because the loonie left and the evil would not kill  their own but would certainly attempt it on anybody that was good. which not long ago, I read an article that stated that Trump has had more assassination attempts on his life already than any other president to date.  But I can't prove the article to be true or even concocted for that fact.
   But fact remains somebody exiled himself from the politicol forum over that article but is now back with near the same depravity as before.  Wacko  Just proof some never change... Shocked   Just the nature of the Unhappy flipfloppies. LOL
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So basically pinball, you're not right, being in the position is not enough for respect. Agreed, that's the only thing that qualified Obama for respect was the fact he was the president. But apparently, that isn't enough.

My only point was, in order for what you said to be the case, it would have to be a 2 way street, which it clearly is not.
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BTW JC, I've heard that phrase. I don't think it was here. I don't think I was around much at the time. But I heard that phrase, and many others. Heard him called every name in the book, before and after he was elected. Saying so doesn't make me a sympathizer, I'm just stating the facts of what I've heard said.
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I've heard the Bum was a mack daddy, not here,and I think I agree. Don't know what a mack daddy is but it doesn't sound flattering.
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Thought about it a bit and think the lack of respect goes back farther tha Reagan. It goes back to Nixon. Woodward and Bernstein made a name for themselves taking down a president, and after that, if it was a Republican, journalists went after him.....hoping to do the same and make a name for themselves. Hollywood and the elites joined in....lampooning and ridiculing.....if it was a Republican.

When you had somebody like Clinton.......there was the journalist famous quip about Bill....."he is not only a liar, he is an exceptionally good liar". That was intended as a compliment.
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I guess my mind set can be addressed by a question. How many people would run up to kiss the ring on the hand of Pope Adolf Hitler or Pope Idi Amin Da da or Pope Saddam Hussien? not very many I would think. It is very simple, the man makes the office respectable not the other way round. Oh and BTW there absolutely no inference or disrespect to the Catholic Church intended.
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I guess it comes down to individuals, how they treat such things in their own mind.

Think about a person in the military. If a lowly private, you have to "SHOW" respect to everyone above you. You may hate them on the inside, but you have to go through the motions whether you like it or not. So, is that respect real, or just a façade? The President is the Commander in Chief, so the highest general has to show that respect and follow the orders, whether he hates the man or agrees with him or not.

Do I respect Obama now? No. What if I had met him in 2009? I don't know. I already did not LIKE him, could tell he was a total phony. But he was the POTUS, and in 2009, personally I did not know how bad he really was.

It's part of living in a Republic such as we do. 45% of the people feel one way, 45% of the people feel the opposite, 10% wishy washy with the changing wind and we live in the consequence. Literally half the time or more, 45% of the people aren't happy with how things are! No wonder it's miserable out there! Haha
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T-bone, When bummer started running for prez, I simply did not like him, not because he was suppose to be black, but for his very actions, speech, body language, stutter, ah' ums cough's  and not knowing what to say, because truth was he didn't know what to say... never mind his suit looked like it was pulled out of a rolled up garbage bag, and he hung his head low and looked at the floor a lot and shuffled around and you could see he didn't want to be there... all spoke of his non-presidential qualities. I have spent many hours trying to find those first two televised episodes, but I can't  find them them anymore.... they must have been scrubbed off the internet.
  and the third time I seen him on the tube, addressing the viewers, He held his head high with his nose slightly up and looked down and directly into the camera lenses and speaking eloquently. no longer fidgeting, or coughing or ums or errrs and looking at the floors... and the looks of a disheveled unkept scroungy ungroomed doomed man, but instead now his clothes were crisp sharp creases and his hair combed and his face scrubbed and taken on a demeanor of a haughty arrogant man. .. No longer was he himself, he was a groomed, bought and paid for puppet, a mouth piece giving speeches of somebody else's words. 
 At that point was when my dislike turned from not simply disliking him, but turned to hating him because he was somebody else's puppet now... a mouthpiece for those behind the curtains that try to rule and reign.
  Didn't take to long to have a deeper dislike for the new puppet clown when he started his blunders... first was a white officer stopping a black man from entering a house... only to have it turn out the black man was the home owner and had locked himself out of his own house an bummer takes that into a camp david type of a meeting. LOL next was "He could have been my son".... then another of his misunderstood children was shot dead and ferguson burned... and his apology tours.... and then his sinister ISEL brigade started.  yea, just a 'kinder' word he used for ISIS. .. the terrorists he supported.  Not what I would support, nor should he have either but he did... and ISIS took over most of SYRIA until Trump got into power and it was just weeks that it took Donald to get the ball rolling over those terrorists and take them out...
 In the real world, that man should not have had a second term, but there were still to many that thought we were the racist ones over that black skin of his when it was the sheer fact it was his inability to do what was Constitutionally right for this country and it's citizens...  And since Trump won in 2016, the democrat delusionals can not accept their glorious presidential candidate Hellary lost and have been fighting to regain control by what ever means they can lie cheat slander accuse and steal... nothing is beneath them to do.  They don't even try to find a candidate that is worthy of office, they are going to shove whatever they have into office because they just have to at all cost this time around.  Oh well, hope their are enough sane people to vote Trump in again over anything the left does through their deceitful propaganda ways as of late.
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Well, i live in Illinois and the bum was our State Senator before that... Could not WALK and CHEW GUM at the same time.

Then the Chitcago Mob mad a PUSH to put him in the Senate for 2 years, then PUSHED for President.. Everyone said "WTF"...."he cant walk and chew gum at the sametime".... Like you said, he was a disaster in the first few months.. by the end of first year he had been "SCHOOL TAUGHT" by Sorass and the crew to be a decent speaker.... Even BiteMe made the comment that "He cleans up pretty good for a little black boy" !!
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