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Topic: Trailer Inquirey

Posted By: shaverjeff
Subject: Trailer Inquirey
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 11:34am

I'm looking for some advice on purchasing a trailer.

Primarily used for hauling my WC, and occasional car/truck, as well as landscaping (logs, brush, lumber etc) I've not a clue where to start as far as axle capacity, size, weight etc.

I grew up on a farm hauling all kinds of stuff in my younger days but never much paid close attention to the trailer specs.

Also I will be pulling this with a 94 f150 (302 gas) mild lift, not wanting a 5th wheel just a standard hitch)

I'm leaning towards an open tandam axle, preferably wood plank floor.

It would be awesome to have a low riding dump box but I couldn't find any with fold down sides for loading/unloading a vehicle. So I would likely have to build some removable sides for hauling brush and the like.

What is a good size all around trailer for these tasks?

Does anyone have any recommendations, or even better would be pictures of their setups?

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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 12:41pm

There are basically 3 sizes of axles... 3500#, 5200#, and 7000 # capacity. When you put two axles on a trailer you get 7000#, 10400# and 14000# capacity. Assume the trailer will weigh 2000 (about) so the three trailers can CARRY 5000#, 8400#, and 12000#......THe standard small car trailer will handle a WD, but not much extra capacity. I had the 7000# trailer for years and was always pushing the upper limit. I just sold it a few months ago and went to a 10400# trailer. The 3000# extra capacity allows you to move a bobcat, backhoe, or some other equipement you might purchase. The smaller trailer is (roughly) $2500. and the larger is $3500. base price.

YOu also can get two different widths. The standard is 76 inches wide between the fenders, the larger is 82 inches wide between the fenders. Obviously the 76 inch is big enough for a WD, but its a little tight for a 4 x 4 truck.. I went to the 82 inch wide.

All depends on what your going to haul and how much $$ you want to invest.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.

Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 May 2014 at 12:44pm

Check with the State and see what plates will cost for the trailer.. Some states charge twice as much for a 10K as they do for the 7K trailer... Normally the 14K is a lot higher... and your truck will not pull that anyway.......... I like a 16 ft with 2 ft beavertail for 18 ft total length.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.

Posted By: shaverjeff
Date Posted: 19 May 2014 at 6:13am

Thanks for the input I feel like I finally have some direction and know what to look for.

Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 19 May 2014 at 7:04am

You will be looking at a limited amount of tongue type trailers. As stated a 16' with a beavertail and potentially slide in ramps would be a good choice, stay to the six lug 5000# axles as the tires are less expensive as well the load rate for tires to fit a 7000# axle is only 6500#. Make certain you get at least one if not both axles with brakes, add a electronic controller to your truck from Tekonsha or with much load you are asking for trouble.

Posted By: Andrew_D
Date Posted: 19 May 2014 at 7:53am

We had a 20' car hauler (PJ) with 2 x 7,000lb axles. Flip-up heavy-duty ramps on the rear (usually removed). Found that on the farm, we hauled mostly pallet-ed seed and chem and the fenders were always in the way. Sold it after 10 years for $4500.

Traded to a 22' PJ deckover. 8" I-beam frame. Slide-in 7'? ramps. 102" wide. 2 x 7,000lb axles. (approx $5,000) It works much better for what we use it for, but I'd like to trade again to axles with dual wheels for better stability. When hauling pallets 2-wide, those tires seem to be quite a ways in under the trailer! Also, pulling the pin for the foot on the jack is a pain with the spare tire holder on the tongue so I'd get dual jacks on the next one.

Can't comment on the licensing, pulling requirements because our rules will be different up here!

Andrew

Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 19 May 2014 at 8:11am

I have two, an 18 ft car hauler, 3500 lb axles, worked good for WD and a few cars, got a skid steer so went to an 18 ft with 6000 lb torsion axles and flip up ramps, rides very nice and fits my needs, got a deal on it or would have gone bigger gooseneck.

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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)

Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 19 May 2014 at 11:46am

Personally, if I was you, I would be looking for a deckover (flatbed) trailer with 2 - 7000 lb. axles. Eventually, you may buy a bigger truck or bigger tractor. It's a lot easier to have a heavy duty trailer, than to be overloaded all the time.

I would also insist on a an adjustable height hitch, spare tire with carrier and plenty of tie downs.

I prefer a wood deck. Although wood decks rot over time, they are much less slippery than steel decks.

If you want a place to look, try :

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I'm not endorsing them over any other trailer, but they are the only one I have found that lists prices on their website. Kauffman is a direct sell (no dealers) company and they are in North Carolina.

Before you buy any brand, check with other owners of that brand, to see if they are happy with their trailer.

Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 19 May 2014 at 11:47am

Here is a clickable link:

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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 19 May 2014 at 4:04pm

Using 7,000 axles and 16" LT tires on them with 8 bolt wheels - seems to get a trailer tire on 6 bolt 3,000 axles the rims give out or the tires do ,

for years I used 14.5" tires on tri-axle trailer to haul my equipment but sure made a better trailer when I bought the new axles to put under old trailer and went to the 16" rims and tires .

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