This followed me home, yesterday.
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Topic: This followed me home, yesterday.
Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Subject: This followed me home, yesterday.
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 11:08pm
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As soon as I can get a 2nd set of remotes on the D17, I plan to test it out.
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Replies:
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 3:18am
| that's a nice looker! musta been kept inside huh? |
Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 4:39am
| That is very n ice, ought to make that D17 bark nicely, have fun. |
Posted By: cornbinder
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 5:42am
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i have been looking for one just like that (or a 4 btm) for almost a year and never turned up any leads. nice find!! ------------- D-19 gas w/f-sold 185-d yr round cab 95 mustang gt 5.0 86 mustang 5.0 coupe 3 99 f-250 7.3 4x4's 96 f-250 7.3 4x4 |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 7:18am
| Greg nice lookin unit also great job of tying it down-- would have passed any cvi's look!! |
Posted By: Tony Elo
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 7:21am
| nice plow,I have the identical one,3 16s |
Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 7:35am
| Really nice looking plow -- fun times ahead. |
Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 8:38am
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Thanks, guys.
Yep, it had a comfy spot in the back of a shed and only got to get out a few days each year. Recently, it was only getting to see the sun when the shed door opened.
It's a 3x16. A semi-mount is probably a little big for my needs, but its in such good shape that I couldn't pass it up. I must be I'm coming down with something...Allis-itis.
 From what I've read, here, on the forum there's no cure. All you can do is deal with the symptoms when it flares up. I had it strapped down pretty good. It didn't move an inch. If I had to do it again, though, I would put it back a little farther on the trailer; get it over the axles a bit more. I was hoping I could butt the tire up against the front of the trailer, but as I started binding the chains, the tire swivelled (per design).
 I didn't have too far to go so I left it. I'll post some more photos when it gets to play in the dirt, again.
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Posted By: WD45
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 6:02pm
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Nice looking plow.Purchased a new 5x18 - model 2000 in 1975 traded it off in 1986 for a different brand that one could change the furrow width. ------------- Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 7:00pm
| Greg awesome plow! WOW! |
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 8:09pm
| That plow looks like a real cherry!!! I wish I could find one that nice to play with behind my D17!!!!! Ryan |
Posted By: Seth Souerdike
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 8:18pm
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oh yeah!! ill bet your going to have alot of fun! i know i would!
------------- There are no atheist in foxholes. |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 8:08am
| Looks great, I just got one, a 3-18s, thought mine looked real good but your looks better, am putting mine behind 185. |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 8:10am
| Just another thought, why do you need two sets of remotes, I don't see any need for two? |
Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 10:29am
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The first set is being run up to the front to the controls for the loader. Unless I'm not fully understanding this, which is quite possible, I thought I would have to have another set to work rear-mounted implements.  |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 3:58pm
| Yes, didn't know you were using the one set for the loader. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 4:04pm
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Very nice! ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 8:10pm
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Some people have ALL the luck!! You did REAL GOOD!! Congrats! Makes me jealous.
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 8:17pm
You could very easily make an angle iron lock up for the loader, and disconnect the hydraulic hoses so you can plug the plow in. I don't think I ever saw anybody plowing with a loader on before though. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Greg_WJP_(WI) wrote:Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 10:15pm
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The holes on left side will accomodate 2 more remotes , but I do not know if they will work independantly of the other remotes .Some one on here will know for sure ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 11:21pm
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Tucker,
Thanks for the suggestion. I don't know if you can tell in the photo, but the quick connects to the loader are on the hoses not on (what I would consider) the remotes. I don't know if this is backwards or if I don't fully understand it or maybe it doesn't really matter. But, I think, in order to make this work, I'd have to do one of the following:
1. Buy quick connect adapters for the hydraulics hoses so that a male hose could connect to the male remote and then block up the loader every time (or take it off). And then have some extra adapter sets around for any hydraulic implements I want to connect up to the tractor.
2. Switch around the quick connects for remotes and hoses for the loader and then just block up the loader every time (or take it off)
3. Put in a 2nd set of remotes with the quick connect set up so the hoses can snap right into them. I'd still have full functionality of the loader if I wanted to use it (or take it off).
Pat,
Thanks, that's where I figured they'd go. I've seen some tractors that have 2 sets of remotes on them and that's where they've been installed.
Thanks, guys!
Greg
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Posted By: b170dr
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 12:03am
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Put a diverter in the line. When the diverter is pussed one way fluid will go to the loader, push the diverter the othere way fluid will go to your implement behind you. They cost from $90 to $110 at implement shops. I get mine surplus in Omaha fo $30. Exact same thing. Use them on my sprayer tractor for guide sysstem on these mountiams in western Wis. ------------- '64 B-10, '58 D-14, '60 D-15D, '58 D-17D, D-19, 170, 2-185D, 190, 68 D-21 11, 72-220, 7000,7030, F-2 G,w/5 Heads,L-2 G, 330 No-Till |
Posted By: Travis(NE)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 12:40am
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Is your loader full Hyd? Loader up/down, and bucket dump/rollback If yes does the loader have it's own valve with relief? If so you could plumb it in direct to the Hyd pump and free up your rear remote. |
Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 12:57am
Travis,
Yes the loader is fully hydraulic.
I don't know what you're referring to in regards to having it's own valve with relief. The hydraulics run from the remotes to the bucket control levers (one for height, one for pitch) mounted above and to the right of the steering wheel.
Greg
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 1:06am
| if you have an unused hyd lever, it'll work, just like the 180's when they came out, it had 2 remote holes plugged, i removed them and plumbed fittings in them, now the 180 has dual hyd's. the lever was there, just never used by previous owner! had to lube up the lever a bit as it was almost rusted in nuetural. |
Posted By: Travis(NE)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 1:12am
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Ok I'm assuming for you to use the loader the lever on the right near the 3pt lever has to be held in either the forward or rear position and then you use two separate levers on the loader to control up/down and dump/rollback. If that is correct depending on the loader valve you can remove the hoses going to the rear of the tractor and get two new hoses made to hook directly to the Hyd pump on the right side of the torque tube. You would unhook the bigger of the two steel lines on the front of the pump and run a hose to the loader valve and the a hose out of the loader valve back to the steel line you unhooked from the pump. This will only work if the loader valve is an open center valve with and adjustable relief. Confused yet? If you can post a picture of the loader valve that would help. |
Posted By: Travis(NE)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 1:15am
I can see in his picture above that his tractor does not have a second remote valve nor lines installed. That was a good thought though. |
Posted By: Travis(NE)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 1:22am
| Oh but now I just noticed that it is a Hyd reset plow... Gonna have to think about this for a minute... |
Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 1:29am
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I'll see if I can find a picture of it on one of my other computers, tomorrow...or rather later today.
Here's the controls for the 3-point and remotes (outside=3-pt up/down, inside= 3-pt/remote selector):
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Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 10:02pm
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Travis,
I think these are the photos you wanted.
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Posted By: Travis(NE)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 11:42pm
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From what I can see in that picture of the valve it is set up as I was thinking. As it is set up now you probably can not use the 3pt while the loader valve is usable can you? I think I can see what looks like an acorn nut to the left of the up/down lever for the loader and if so that is probably the adjusting screw for the relief valve. |
Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 9:55pm
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Travis,
You are correct. One of the levers (inside one) next to the seat switches between the 3-point and the remotes. I can only use one or the other depending on where the lever is positioned.
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Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 10:01pm
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Travis does this help any?  |
Posted By: Travis(NE)
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 10:24pm
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Yes it does! That picture helps a lot and now I can see that the loader valve does have an adjustable relief valve. If you remove the hoses coming from the rear remote going to the loader valve and either replace or modify them you can run them straight to the Hyd pump. By doing this you will gain two things... 1. You will free up the rear remote couplers 2. You will gain the ability to use the loader or the 3pt without first having to activate or de-activate a lever to do so I can't see for sure, but I'm willing to bet that the port where the hose comes into the loader valve on the far left has the word "in" near it. If that is true you can run a hose from that port to the bigger of the two ports, front inside, on the Hyd pump and the outlet side of the loader valve to the steel line that is unhooked from the Hyd pump and goes to the rear and to the tractor valves. Just make sure you can verify the in and out of the loader valve and adjust the relief valve to around 2000 psi or what the service manual calls for.(I don't have a manual handy at he moment) If I haven't completely lost you yet I have another idea for the plow tail wheel... |
Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:25pm
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Travis,
I think I understand what you're saying. I don't have the tractor here at the house, so it will most likely be a couple of weeks before I can get to it to verify the ins and outs (this weekend being Easter and all). If you can verify the pressure for me that would be great, too. I didn't get a loader manual when I bought the tractor, just the tractor manual.
So why wasn't it run directly off the pump to start with? Hmm, maybe they figured you, usually, don't use the loader and the 3-point at the same time, anyway.
Thanks for all the time you're spending on this with me.
Greg
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 9:51am
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Greg, if you are headed down the weekend of the 14th, give me a call and we can get together.
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 12:52pm
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Ted, If it works out I'll give you a call. Greg |