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Topic: 8 row planter 6 row head
Posted By: Sandknob
Subject: 8 row planter 6 row head
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 2:46pm
what is everyone's opinion on using a 8 row john deere 7000 with a 6 a row corn head? I have a chance to buy an 8 row john deere 7000 for about 1500. it would replace my international 56 6 row . has anyone had any problems doing this? adam



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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 4:31pm
Pull 2 boxes off the planter.If it is 8 row wide and you have a narrow head, it might lead to trouble???


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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 4:33pm
Put the 2 extra row units on a tool bar and sell it on EPay for $800 for a food plot planter.

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Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 4:35pm
Been there done that, for over 10 years. It works ok but your "guess" rows can get wide or narrow so you have two rows that won't quite match every other through. Not a big deal most of the time.

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Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 6:11pm
We did it with a 6 row planter and a 4 row head for years. It helps if you plant straight but it doesn't  have to be perfect. Help a neighbor with an 8 row planter ( we have a 6 row corn head now) and had no issues.


Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 6:38pm
I have planted with a two row and picked with a three row for years. I think this year I'll plant with a four row and pick wirh a three row.
Don


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Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 6:41pm
I plant 12 rows and combine 8.  Never a problem if you follow the marker mark.  Have a few neighbors that plant ten and combine 6 or 4 rows.  We have all been doing this for many years.


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 9:07pm
The only problem I see is that it is a John Deere planter! LOL! Just kidding, Deeres are almost as good as Allis. Darrel


Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 9:09pm
Depends on how good a tractor driver you are!  Auto steer would be a plus.

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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 9:12pm
As long as you can follow the marker you should be good to go.  The guy I farm with is dead on with his guess rows.  If we end up off a row combining you don't notice it.  It's all a matter of how good you do planting.  Buddy of mine planted 12 combined 8 with no problems.


Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 10:01pm
i use a 6 row planter and 8 row head and it works good.

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Posted By: CBL95
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 10:06pm
It will work as well as long as you can plant straight. We have done it 20 plus years and have done with a 4 row planter and a 3 row corn head JD 45, a 6 row planter and a Gleaner F2 and a 4 row head and a 16 row planter and a new 12 row Case IH combine at work. As long as you plans straight it will run fine through the head and if you don't ya just have to back up and take fewer rows.


Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 11:07pm
We plant with a 6-30 JD 7000 planter, and combine with a 4 row on our F2.  We farm a lot of countours and hills, and still have very little trouble lining up rows.  Just gotta be good at planting and gotta pay close attention on corners.

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Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2012 at 6:23am
We ran 6 row JD 7100 planters for years, with an 8R Allis head, and the guys are right, it all depends on how straight you drive, guess rows will be an issue, but it's not really that bad.  We farm a lot of hill ground in the family, and have no auto steer, and it works fine, may have to slow down once in a while if the guess is really wide or narrow, but it works. 

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Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2012 at 9:49am

A family in our neighborhood had their markers shortened so the mark was on the wheel track. They put the front tire right on the line. They made their rows super straight. They always hired their corn spraying and combining done and wanted to have any size machines hit the field. Their press drill was set up the same way. When they had their auction in 1998, they had already sold their corn planter but still had the drill. The auctioneer made some comment about the drill having the wrong markers on it, you will have to buy it as-is. Most of the crowd understood why they were set up that way but he didn't.



Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2012 at 10:46am
The markers on my 4 row narrow 7000 planter are too long to hit the tractor center so the SOP is to hit the far wheel track. When I can see the wheel (open tractor) all the time that gets guess rows so precise my custom combiner can't find them. I can by them being off an inch if I get out an check with a tape. Most combine heads allow 4 or 5 inches tolerance. I put the center rib of the front tire in the marker groove. I've adjusted the marker disk angle to be small so it cuts narrow and deep. I don't plant with the wandering hydraulic steering of the 4020, it won't drive a straight line no matter where I hold the steering wheel steady.

I also copied AC using a ball hitch for the planter to tractor and bolt down the draw bar so the markers can't steer the planter side to side in the typical hitch pin clearance. That also improves the precision of the guess rows.

Gerald J.


Posted By: Dean/MN
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2012 at 11:08am
We just got a 16 row White planter last year and are still using a 6 row head. Had no problems with harvest. Like everyone else said you need to plant straight. Put your best driver on the planter and it should not be a problem. Years ago we also use to have an 8 row planter with a 6 row head, ran it that way for years with no problems till we went to a 12 row.
 If that 7000 planter is in good shape that is a heck of a deal for only 1500.


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Posted By: John D
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2012 at 12:17pm
We've done many variations - plant 4 and pick 3, plant 6 and pick 4, plant 12 and pick 8. All work fine just teaches you to drive a little straighter! 

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