B Model Tire
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Topic: B Model Tire
Posted By: BillyW.
Subject: B Model Tire
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 11:35am
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I have a b and the big nut that holds the tire on is loose. My dad died and I'm trying to get the tractor going. I looked through all his tools and I can't find anything big enough to fit. A friend said to try a monkey wrench but I don't know if my dad had one. Can anyone help. How do you get a picture next to your name? Thanks
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Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 12:57pm
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Later today, I will show you all a picture of the socket my friend made me for these nuts. I am out of town and won't be able to take the picture until tonight. There is a cornpicker wrench that fits them I think. I know Fred had one at one time.................. ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 1:03pm
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You could make a wrench to fit or maybe borrow something but you may find one of the more common problems with the B after 60-70 years. The axle is a tapered spline and if things wear enough, you can bottom the hub out on the shoulder and it won't be tight. Some fixes are to shim the spline, cut the shoulder back, or you can epoxy the thing together. To put a picture by your name you go to your profile page and add or edit your avatar. It needs to be a small enough picture or it won't work. There are some pre-set avatars or you can google search avatars and make your own. I did mine and then somebody on this page made it into a gif file so it strummed the G tar but I lost that some time back. Welcome to the BEST tractor sight on the web and good luck with the B. Maybe some others will have a better answer for the wrench but a big pipe wrench might work or you can use a hammer and a heavy piece of flat stock as a punch and just pound on it radially. Good luck with it. Charlie ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Ted in NE-OH
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 2:25pm
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Ues a pipe wrench. ------------- CA, WD, C, 3 Bs, 2 Gs, WC, I-400, 914 |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 3:19pm
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I know we are all hoping that the spline is not repeat NOT worn out. We all have to remember - including me - that even though it seems like - to me - just yesterday, the B was made from 1937 - 1957. Things that NEVER happened when I sold them are very apparent today because of age, misuse, and neglect. In any event, this is my FAVORITE Allis Chalmers Tractor and I sincerely hope you will find that the nut will tighten and all will be right. Let us know how it goes. Good Luck! Bill Long ps: I cannot remember ever having to tighten the nut. |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 9:28pm
This is my socket for removing/tightening these wheel nuts.... 1/2 inch drive, works good on a big breaker bar or an impact wrench. ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 9:29pm
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It weighs about 5 lbs..... ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: Wes (VA)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 10:35pm
| Wow Glenn..I've got tool envy..haha |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 8:25am
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About just as many Bs left out there have one or both axle splines worn from running them with a loose nut as there are those that are still tight and unworn. The degree of ware determines the choice of a fix. Where water and rust has gotten the best of the splines they are pretty much junk.
Those axle threads are real fine. I was unfortunate enough strip most of them off a axle when trying to remove a stuck nut using heat. Now when I run into a stuck nut I cut the nut off and replace it with new 1/14 hex lock nut from Fastenall. A 37145 is the Fastenall number.
Another nut just like the odd shaped outside nut is on the other end of the axle. They are usually real nice and greasy and easy to break loose with the right tool. They hold the tapered spline bull gear to the axle. Glenn's special tool won't work on the inside nut.
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Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 8:27am
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That is where Fred's cornpicker wrench works really good.... LOL ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: BillyW.
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 11:48am
| Thanks everyone, my friend brought over some big pipe wrenches last night and we got the nut tight. |
Posted By: George Davenport
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 12:10pm
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To make it more convenient, when I had mine off, I welded a 1 5/8 hex head nut to each one and I use a 3/4 drive handle (with extension if required) with 1 5/8 hex socket. This overcomes the depression that it is nested into the tire edge.
------------- Life is what happens while you are making plans for the future |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 3:25pm
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Ken, This 1 3/8" by 2 1/4" wrench is for the inside nut..... I am trying to build the worlds largest collection of custom tools to be used on the B tractors.... LOL Glenn  ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: norm[ind]
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 7:05pm
| picture of your wrench was made for the mtd. corn pickers had many for the slip clutches |