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AC 5030 (1978-1985)??

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Topic: AC 5030 (1978-1985)??
Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Subject: AC 5030 (1978-1985)??
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:46pm
Need help Friend of mind has a AC 5030
was working find and then engine just quit
going across the field and will not restart
 tank is full of diesels and it is a three cylinder
engine crank but will not start it make black
smoke and almost start seem to turn faster
then just the started try  bleeding it but no
change  tried ether and seen to make it worse
turn at started speed. could it have jump time ??
broken cam shaft ?? valve ??anyone have any ideas
where do i start to look at this TIA

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B:-)    Dnoym



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Posted By: Doyle B(NY)
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:52pm
i may not be much help but it you have black smoke you must be getting fuel so mabey its not getting enough air? just my 2 cents.


Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 7:10pm
 thanks  Doyle i did take the hose off of intake
to see if filter was plug with no change
it may be an AC 5015 i think he told me
it was about 30 hp  the inject-pump has
it own oil that you have to change separate
from the engine oil  open too any idear

B:-)     Dnoym


Posted By: AC200Puller
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2012 at 12:17pm
Sounds like a timing thing to me something must have jumped or broke. The first place I would start is under the valve cover , then off to the pump drive.


Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2012 at 7:26pm
just to update you i brought the tractor
in the shop and took the hood off and
check for fuel at the injector it was
spitting fuel out so then i took the valve
cover off and the valve were all moving
and they would have a little movement
when they were close so i took out the glow
plug and i could here and feel  compression
on # 1 cylinder but not on #2 and #3 so
i put air in the glow plug hole and on 1
on tdc it would roll the engine but when
i did it to 2 & 3  i could here and feel the
air come  out of the other one so i think i
have a bad head gasket ( best case sanarrow )
(spelling )   will be taking the head off tomorrow
to see how bad it can get
but it make sense to me it was trying
too run on one cylinder 
tanks for all the help so far will let you
know what i find
B:-)      Dnoym



Posted By: agcodick
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2012 at 8:13pm
Head gasket was my first thought reading this. Sounds like that is your issue. The thing that gave it away was you said it was black smoking but cranking faster. Good luck.


Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 9:18pm
just to update you this is what i found
head and block look ok but what a shock
when i price the new gasket from agco
they only want $ 268.00 for a
3435666M1      87cid Toyosha engine
and three week to ship one in plus fright
dose anyone know of an after market
number or where i could get one
any help would appreciated
TIA       B:-)     Dnoym








Posted By: Bob D. (La)
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 4:21am
If you could contact Affolders equipment in Berne, Indiana they can get one. Don't know the price would be any better but might be worth the hassle. They are a long time AC and now Agco dealer.

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When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!!


Posted By: agcodick
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 12:45pm
Try doing an internet serarch for them. You would be surprised what you can find. I have gotten some great deals on parts. Its worth a shot. You might even find someone who specializes in these parts.


Posted By: ryan(IN)
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 3:37pm
It will be a long shot trying Affolders as they just had a fire destroy theri shop. Insurance made them throw away all parts. they are a little stressed at the moment. You could try dont know if it would be worth it.

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ryan
1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62


Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2012 at 8:56pm
why dont you try napa? you would be surprised at what they have availible...



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