AC 5030 (1978-1985)??
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Topic: AC 5030 (1978-1985)??
Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Subject: AC 5030 (1978-1985)??
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:46pm
Need help Friend of mind has a AC 5030 was working find and then engine just quit going across the field and will not restart tank is full of diesels and it is a three cylinder engine crank but will not start it make black smoke and almost start seem to turn faster then just the started try bleeding it but no change tried ether and seen to make it worse turn at started speed. could it have jump time ?? broken cam shaft ?? valve ??anyone have any ideas where do i start to look at this TIA
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B:-) Dnoym
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Posted By: Doyle B(NY)
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:52pm
i may not be much help but it you have black smoke you must be getting fuel so mabey its not getting enough air? just my 2 cents.
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Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 7:10pm
thanks Doyle i did take the hose off of intake to see if filter was plug with no change it may be an AC 5015 i think he told me it was about 30 hp the inject-pump has it own oil that you have to change separate from the engine oil open too any idear
B:-) Dnoym
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Posted By: AC200Puller
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2012 at 12:17pm
Sounds like a timing thing to me something must have jumped or broke. The first place I would start is under the valve cover , then off to the pump drive.
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Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2012 at 7:26pm
just to update you i brought the tractor in the shop and took the hood off and check for fuel at the injector it was spitting fuel out so then i took the valve cover off and the valve were all moving and they would have a little movement when they were close so i took out the glow plug and i could here and feel compression on # 1 cylinder but not on #2 and #3 so i put air in the glow plug hole and on 1 on tdc it would roll the engine but when i did it to 2 & 3 i could here and feel the air come out of the other one so i think i have a bad head gasket ( best case sanarrow ) (spelling ) will be taking the head off tomorrow to see how bad it can get but it make sense to me it was trying too run on one cylinder tanks for all the help so far will let you know what i find B:-) Dnoym
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Posted By: agcodick
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2012 at 8:13pm
Head gasket was my first thought reading this. Sounds like that is your issue. The thing that gave it away was you said it was black smoking but cranking faster. Good luck.
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Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 9:18pm
just to update you this is what i found head and block look ok but what a shock when i price the new gasket from agco they only want $ 268.00 for a 3435666M1 87cid Toyosha engine and three week to ship one in plus fright dose anyone know of an after market number or where i could get one any help would appreciated TIA B:-) Dnoym


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Posted By: Bob D. (La)
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 4:21am
If you could contact Affolders equipment in Berne, Indiana they can get one. Don't know the price would be any better but might be worth the hassle. They are a long time AC and now Agco dealer.
------------- When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!!
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Posted By: agcodick
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 12:45pm
Try doing an internet serarch for them. You would be surprised what you can find. I have gotten some great deals on parts. Its worth a shot. You might even find someone who specializes in these parts.
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Posted By: ryan(IN)
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 3:37pm
It will be a long shot trying Affolders as they just had a fire destroy theri shop. Insurance made them throw away all parts. they are a little stressed at the moment. You could try dont know if it would be worth it.
------------- ryan 1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62
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Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2012 at 8:56pm
why dont you try napa? you would be surprised at what they have availible...
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