Sunken Shipment Of A's
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Topic: Sunken Shipment Of A's
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Subject: Sunken Shipment Of A's
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 8:09pm
On one of the other topics had a link to an ebay auction where the guy said something about a ship full of them sinking in the ocean. Is there any information on this??? Where were they going and how many were lost??? This just really peaked my curiosity.
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Posted By: Farrell(Utah)
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 8:13pm
This one is news to me and I own an A. Like you, I think it would be nice information to know.
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 9:22pm
Just my opinion , but you cant believe everything you read !!! Sellers have very vivid descriptions sometimes
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Posted By: Duey (IA)
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 9:35pm
There are numerous sources
On Line
http://www.ruvr.ru/main.php?lng=eng&q=20530&cid=189&p=19.12.2007
http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/documents/index.htm
In Print
Russia's Life-Saver: Lend-Lease Aid to the U.S.S.R. in World War II,
by Albert Weeks
> (regards US Lend Lease via Vladovostok): "
> The ships proceeded in convoy, the Japanese were informed by the
> Soviet government of the size, makeup and route of the convoy
>> Was it all Russian shipping?
Ships flagged to the Soviet Union certainly though a large percentage
been built in the United States
Keith
Another of Keith's responses is:
The ships proceeded in convoy, the Japanese were informed by the
Soviet government of the size, makeup and route of the convoy
> Was it all Russian shipping?
A typical convoy left Seattle for Vladivostok in Jan 1944.
It was composed of 46 merchantmen (all 8-10K ton ships); built by
McCormack Ship Yards that were Soviet flagged and Soviet crewed.
Six of the 46 ships were loaded with ammunitions and small arms. Four of the
46 ships were loaded with foodstuffs. Two of the 46 ships were loaded by
Dodge (presumably with trucks). One ship was loaded by Westinghouse
(presumably with communications gear).
They carried:
20,000 tons of steel provided by U.S. Steel.
3,000 truck chassis, by Ford (the Soviets also assembled U.S. trucks from
parts).
3,000 truck differentials from Thornton Tandem Co.
2,000 tractors by Allis Chalmers Co. (agricultural and military use)
1,500 automotive batteries from the Price Battery Corp.
1,000 aircraft provided by the North American Aviation Co.
612 airplanes from the Douglas Aircraft Co.
600 trucks from Mack.
500 Allison aircraft engines.
500 half-tracks from Minneapolis Moline Co.
400 airplanes from Bell Aircraft
400 electric motors from Wagner Electric Co.
400 truck chassis by GM (see Ford above)
310 tons of ball bearings from the Fafnir Company.
200 aircraft provided by the U.S. Navy
200 aircraft engines by Aeromarine
100 tractor-trailer units by GM (trucks)
70 aircraft engines by Pratt & Whitney
The main limitation on shipping supplies via the pacific was the
capacity of the Soviet railway system.
Keith
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Posted By: Dale H. ECIL
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 10:17pm
I heard about this several years ago but have not gotten any details on it.
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Posted By: Dave Everett
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 7:02am
its off the coast of Cornwall England, torpedoed in WW2 some As were got off and are in preservation here in England
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Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 7:26am
It would be nice to know the name of the ship and investigate the manifest.
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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 7:45am
Doesn't really relate but I have a book on lake superior shipwrecks and there was a load of cars that went down. I find the subject interesting.
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Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 8:38am
DougG wrote:
Just my opinion , but you cant believe everything you read !!! Sellers have very vivid descriptions sometimes |
Yes you can.
If it's on the internet is has to be true.
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