Are you kidding me??
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Topic: Are you kidding me??
Posted By: MNLonnie
Subject: Are you kidding me??
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 7:52pm
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You guys that cast new parts should be making some of these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270856965382?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/270856965382?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
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Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 9:10pm
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There's still almost a day left. It will be interesting to see what it ends at. It's the first one I've ever seen like that so it must be pretty rare. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 9:26pm
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I think one sold on ebay for around $130 a couple of years ago...I have 3, one is NOS, I think I need to keep an eye on them! ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 11:05pm
I would bet money it's not a casting. I don't think it would hold up if made out of grey iron. I bet it's a forging. If a guy built the dies, you could make a bunch of them but then they wouldn't be worth the price of tooling probably. ??? ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
MNLonnie wrote:Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 11:13pm
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CTucker is right. I know a guy in the forging business and the dies are big bucks to get made. Now if you could find the original dies that would make it fairly cheap but I bet you'd have better luck winning the loto than you would finding the original dies. |
Posted By: Ken(MI)
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 8:16am
| That is a casting, not a forging, you can see how it is cored out in the center, probably ductile iron, Allis used a lot of it. |
Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 8:47am
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looks like a casting to me. ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
Posted By: skipwelte
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 8:52am
| I have one on my "free" to me WD45. Its cast, maybe I should take it off and put it in the safe!!!!! |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 9:30am
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Yep, cast from nodular iron... but as noted, Allis was really a master of castings. Notice he says 'not bent, broken or welded on'... If they're rare because they're bent, broken, or welded-on, it's because they were frequently found in a scenario where the applied stresses exceeded the item's capacity... If it was that expensive, and fragile enough to worry, I wouldn't put it on my tractor anyway. I'm not rich... and I HATE changing out broken parts, with soon-to-be-broken parts. ;-) |
Posted By: BobPaulusCentrOH
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 9:47am
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And to think I bought one years ago for $10, and gave it to my brother! |
Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 10:06am
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I have one hanging in my shed. I think I'm going to give LLoyds of London a call. ------------- It's the color tractor my grandpa had! |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 10:12am
| When these where bringing $50 - $ 75.oo I did not here anyone saying they where to high ,old saying only takes 2 guys to want it . Anybody have any reproed for $ 25.oo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Dale H. ECIL
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 10:14am
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I have one hanging on my shop wall, better find a safer place for it before the show next year!!!
------------- Allis Chalmers Museum, Paris, Il.http:// www.allischalmersmuseum.com 217-275-3428 |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 10:17am
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$172.50 with 6 hours to go .. Now why could it not be made of steel and cut and shaped on mill. Seems to look like someone with a Bridgeport could make it easily. ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: SenseiCrusher
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 10:21am
| Is it that important to have an original AC casting? I could machine that up in less that an hour out of scrap steel. Restoration aside, I would never pay that much for a piece. Skip is right, look for give aways and piece them out! Our economy is saved! Start a whole new segment employing at least 5 people. I am surprized Obama has not started that business up, give him a call. |
Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 10:36am
| I agree, machine it out of good steel, good to go. |
Posted By: JohnCinMd
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 12:41pm
Fred, thank you for selling me one of yours years ago. I'm glad I didn't wait till now.....
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Posted By: RMD
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 12:54pm
| I had a version of that machined for my D12 a number of years ago. Cost $90 for the machining. |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 1:34pm
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So when were these made originally ? Could you order one when you ordered a new WD45 ? ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 4:01pm
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For those of you that think it'd be easy...make one, take some pictures and put a price tag on it. I'd buy one if you can make it as cheap as some here think it could be done. AaronSEIA
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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 5:38pm
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Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 6:03pm
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To get the price down you would have to set up a production run. A CNC machine to kick out 1 or 2 thousand. Then after you sell the first 5 or 10 the market would be flooded and you would be sitting on 1990 of them.
Buisness plan needs a little more work before you jump into that. ------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend? |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 6:11pm
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Yeah I think we are beating a dead horse here...those that want them only want the originals....and those that need them find there is a better way to do it. These had a tendency to bend the tube they were mounted on. ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 6:18pm
We'll, two people thought this one was worth $199.50 ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2011 at 9:07pm
No, one person thought it was worth $199.50. The other person thought it was only worth $199.00 (or whatever the next lowest increment was). LOL |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2011 at 12:21am
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Probably could simplify the part for working and add some strength by starting with two cubes of steel the size off the square. Stack them together, drill the big hole along that seam, and two bolt holes through both pieces. Its done. Maybe could be shorter in one direction than the cubes. I presume the big hole for the hitch pivot is only half in this part. This way of doing it would require longer bolts, but bolts are cheaper than removing excess steel. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Matt (Jordan,MN)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2011 at 12:34am
| I would like to meet the second highest bidder. I have a NOS one of these that i would sell him for that price in a hart beat. I had it at the Hutchinson show and no one even looked at it. I had the priced lower than what this one went for. Matt |
Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2011 at 7:42am
| That is the beauty of collecting this AC stuff, nice to see what you have turn out to be worth a little bit of money. And no I was not either of the bidders. Dave. |