Would you pay this for a blown 190
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Topic: Would you pay this for a blown 190
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Subject: Would you pay this for a blown 190
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 6:19pm
http://spokane.craigslist.org/grd/2666585293.html - http://spokane.craigslist.org/grd/2666585293.html
I'm sure the scrappers would pay that if it did weigh 8 tons!
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Posted By: Darrell G (MN)
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 7:15pm
I don't think it would go 8 ton, its closer to 8500-9000 just the way it sits.
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Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 7:18pm
Its got a grill worth 150- 300 bucks and about 150-300 in front wieghts. If the top link is original, theres another 100 at least. If it has sway blocks on the 3 point you can add 50-100 bucks. Thats pretty good cash already and you still have a whole tractor. If the tires and rims arent shot they are worth something. Just my two cents worth.
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Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 7:22pm
I didnt even notce it had wheels wieghts, cha ching more money.
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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 9:02pm
There is almost 1000 lbs of weights. I think the scrapers are being very generous. I just bought a '65 one ninety gas that hadn't run in a few years but is running now, good tires , nice straight metal $1500.
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 9:05pm
Worth 10000-12000 in good runnning condition? Ummmm, no.
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 9:07pm
He's not completely out of line on the price, but he's a country mile off on the weight of it. If it was closer to me, I'd go have a look at it. If it has the dual pto's, and the hydraulic pto clutch, it would be a real gem. Darrel
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 10:17pm
Darrel I'd go buy it for you but some lady named Liz got really pi**ed off at me when I told her no way it weighed 8 ton! She claims she has a solid offer from the scrap yard and it isn't based on weight. If the tires were a matched set I would have gone to take a look....
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Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 10:48pm
If the tires are filled, and all the weight on the back, it might be closer than you think, maybe not the total 8tons, but maybe 7? The thing was around 8K lbs bone stock, add the cab, the front weights, the rear outer weights, maybe filled rears, possible inside rear weights?????? Maybe, just sayin
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 11:03pm
$2000 is cheap for a parts tractor, there is still alot of usable stuff on it, the pumps, turbo, tires, weights, body parts, radiator....on and on...the parts add $$$ fast!
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 11:05pm
oh...yeah...i'd gits rid ofthat grandson! and if ya look in the back ground, looks like they are running a used car lot or something! probably took it in on trade and the kid ruined it!
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 6:17am
What's a super tall air cleaner stack worth?
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 8:42pm
Eldon, this Liz lady didn't have a sense of humor, huh? Upon closer look at the tractor, I see that it is not a series III, so therefore it wouldn't have the dual pto's or the hyd pto clutch, so I wouldn't be so intelerested in it anyhow. I would still hope that it would get sold to someone other than the scrappers. Darrel
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 9:01pm
Don't be too hard on the kid. I'm thinking he learned it from dad or grandad to shoot the juice to it. The acorn don't fall from the tree ya know.
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Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 9:21pm
I personally think the add is total BS. Any credible scrap yard won't give you a price quote on something without a weight ticket unless they way under-price something to make sure the weight is there.
What I'm thinking actually happened is the seller called the scrap yard and said " I've got a tractor that weighs 8 tons. What will you give me for it". I'm willing to bet when that tractor rolls across the scrap yard scales the price will be adjusted accordingly. They are also going to dock the price for the tires and any fluid in them.
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 9:39pm
m16ty wrote:
I personally think the add is total BS. Any credible scrap yard won't give you a price quote on something without a weight ticket unless they way under-price something to make sure the weight is there.
What I'm thinking actually happened is the seller called the scrap yard and said " I've got a tractor that weighs 8 tons. What will you give me for it". I'm willing to bet when that tractor rolls across the scrap yard scales the price will be adjusted accordingly. They are also going to dock the price for the tires and any fluid in them. |
That's what I figured too, she claims they have a standing offer from the yard that is good for 2 weeks - and it wasn't based on the weight.....
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Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 9:55pm
Weights, tires, sheetmetal, fenders, 3pt hitch... looks like a goldmine of parts or a good candidate for a 301 out of a combine or something. Yes I'd give $2000 for it, if it was near here.
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Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 2:46pm
Our 190XT is also an early one like this. Loaded 18.4X34 rears,inner weights,outer weights,10.00X16 fronts,nose weights,NO CAB. At tractor pull scales, they weighed her in at 12,900 lbs with my 200 lbs on board. That is just shy of 6.5 tons. It looks like this tractor has 15.5X38 rears too.
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 8:05pm
darrel in ND wrote:
Eldon, this Liz lady didn't have a sense of humor, huh? Upon closer look at the tractor, I see that it is not a series III, so therefore it wouldn't have the dual pto's or the hyd pto clutch, so I wouldn't be so intelerested in it anyhow. I would still hope that it would get sold to someone other than the scrappers. Darrel | It wouldn't have to be a series III to have hydraulic PTO clutch. I had a 65 XT that had it.
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