its a shame
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Topic: its a shame
Posted By: prospolaris
Subject: its a shame
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2011 at 7:45pm
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so i just stoped at an old local farmer house that has stoped farming. has many old tractors such as a 190xt wd wd45 d19. i wanted to know if he would sell them. he said no. its such a shame. ive had my eye on the d19 and the 190xt sitting in the weeds for 5 or 6 years now. i just want to see them go to good homes and not the local junk yards.
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Posted By: Kcgrain
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 9:32am
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That reasoning can not be explained, but I see it all the time, in fact my grandpa suffered from the same thing wouldnt even sell anything to me. I wouldnt take it personally, it either sentimenatal attachment, or like my grandpa, because they had nothing growing up, lived threw the depression, having possesions around makes them feel better. My grandpa had not farmed for many years but if you asked to buy something he said he may still need it so he wouldnt part with it. The second part of the thinking is if you can convince them to sell something they usually want a crazy price for it.I just bought a big white pow from just such a family, the old man finally passed and they called to sell the plow and now it was $7000 less than what he was asking.
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Posted By: Rich(CentWI)
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 10:31am
I was stationed at Griffiss Air base, New York from 1968 to 1972. There was a guy living a few mile out of town that had a lot of old cars from the 1930"s & 40"s sitting in his field. He would not sell any of the cars, not even parts. Wonder what ever happened to to those cars?
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Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 4:42pm
I heard that there is a guy around here that has 3 of the 1970 Plymouth AAR Cudas in his yard. I know a guy that stopped and asked about them and the man said that he had no intention of selling any of them.
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1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500
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Posted By: Austin(WI)
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 4:47pm
Doesn't make sense to me either... If you don't care enough to take care of it...why not let someone else take care of it.
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"Better By Design"
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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 5:25pm
If you were old and had them tractor's or cars for a long time would YOU sell them? I shure woulden't I would rather watch them rust away than sell them.
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Posted By: Dennis IL
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 5:55pm
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Must be something with that depression era generation. My grandpa had so much stuff in his barn that he couldn't even find a particular thing he might be looking for, so what did he do????? he went out and got another. He had three and four of everything for crying out loud! I remember he had a box of sediment bowls and gaskets, at least 5 for each tractor he owned. WHAT THE HECK LOL! LOL! LOL! many times the family got together and told him we would help him clean up the shop and machine sheds but he always said "if you are in a cleaning mood why don't everybody go home and clean your own damn buildings" LOL!! he had a good point I guess but we were trying to keep him from falling over stuff and hurting himseff as he got older.
One day my uncles decided to sneak in there and do the cleaning (especialy after they caught him grinding next to a pan of open gasoline he was soaking parts in after he got alzehimers) and they went to the dump with a lot of stuff. Couple days later Grandpa comes back to the farm from the dump with a pick up load of stuff and tells the boys "look at this stuff that somebody threw out I could use this stuff" most of it was his stuff that the boys brought there. LOL! LOL!!
YES! that depression had a major impact on that generation and they didn't part with anything I agree.
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Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 6:46pm
Not just old people, My brother has a NF 180 that the earth is swallowing. I offered to buy it and do something with it and he wouldn't even talk to me. Seems everything he has is worth $$$$$$
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Posted By: Austin(WI)
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 7:39pm
If I had them and was taking care of them then I would never get rid of them, but what does it matter if it is sitting out in teh tree line and there are trees growing up in the damn thing. I am a history guy...I'm all about preserving it. I realize it's hard to part with things, but how can you care about whether you sell it or not if it is laying in shambles in the back forty.
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"Better By Design"
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Posted By: RickUP
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 7:41pm
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3 AAR cudas...... can I please have the mans name. I would give it shot. LOL
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 7:50pm
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Go down and visit with the fella - get him tellin stories bout the tractors - get him thinkin theyd be better off runnin - it works !!
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 8:44pm
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My grandfather is sort of the the opposite extreme. He is convinced that most of his implements are only worth scrap. His disassemled a All crop 60, new idea crimper, new idea corn picker, and bale thrower for a new holland baler. All except maybe he corn picker had plenty of life in them if someone had a use for them. I know scrap is high but still. I'm sure if he sold it whole he would have got scrap or a little more. The 60 and bale thrower where shed kept all there life. But yet he has 4 pick up boxes of stuff in the sheds that should have sooner went for scrap.
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Posted By: TREVMAN
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 9:02pm
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Its change. As people get older, change gets far more difficult to deal with. As things fold in on them, they can take some comfort in their things still being there,even if they are rotting to pieces. And, sadly, sometimes its spite as well. My Grampa who was in his thirties during the thirties, wouldn't sell any body anything because he was a miserable old sob who didn't want anyone to have any joy from restoring something or even worse, restoring and selling it. So, his stuff rotted away until he died at 99 years, and most of what was left got hauled away to the dump, the rest went to scrappers...
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 10:13pm
I found a D14 with a tree on it, It had a blade welded to the lift arms, no drawbar, a tube freeman loader that had been beat to heck, no side tin, rusted fenders from sitting outside, rear tubes peeking out of the rims and it hadn't ran in 3 or 4 years. Yep it's for sale, he'll take $2000 for it.
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Posted By: Jason in MO
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2011 at 10:27pm
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About 15 years, My grandfather was looking for a good radiator and manifold for a old farmall f-20. One of Grandma's nieces had a get together one year and we found sitting in the weeds behind the shed, an f-20 all taken apart but with a good radiator and manifold along with several other decent parts that we could have used. We tried to get them to sell it but they kept saying they were going to fix her up one day. After several years of sitting out in the weather with the head off and transmission full of water they kept saying same thing even though there was no way that thing was going to move on it's own power again. We finally found out about 5 years ago, they lost the house and everything ended up in the scrap yard.
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Posted By: Matt (NEIA)
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 4:36am
To each his own.
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1955 WD-45 with factory PS
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Posted By: KD in SE Ks
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 5:59am
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In some cases its all in timing. I remember my dad would spot an old car out back and go up and ask. If they wouldn't, he'd give them a year then try again sometimes that worked. I know I have held on to things and someone would drop by and if I was in one of those moods I'd sell.
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Posted By: maurice
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 6:06am
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From MY side of the fence, it feels like either vultures are circling or thieving scrappers are searching for thier next theft. I have a lot of projects going on. My full time job runs into overtime. The front door of my barn can get cluttered - if I leave something out, "scrappers" stop while I am at work and ask my wife if they can clean up, while identifying a battery from 150 feet away. They never leave thier name and number which makes me think we should take pictures of them and license plates so the sheriff will know who to look for after a theft. I read here that many of y'all have had thefts of tractor parts! I scrap myself, and if I bring home some scrap from my full time job, I may not have time that night to sort and hide it in the back field but I got to get it out of the van, so I empty it at the barn door.
I have 2 WD's on my project list. I've had guys (probably honest restorers like y'all) stop to ask about the WDs I've politely told them no. One guy stops every few months , but he would NEVER make a $$ offer. (I eventually quoted him a very high price so he would leave me alone.) But none ever leave his number in case I change my mind.
And no I'm not Depression era, I am 52. I pray that if in future I become a danger to myself or others, that I can recognise the help my adult kids will give me/us.
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Posted By: JPG AUSTRALIA
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 10:01am
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I try the squeaky wheel routine,eventually you'll get the oil if you keep pestering them.I mean how many times have you asked about something only to find it sold to someone else in a year or two,and the guy goes "did you want that? I can't remember you asking".So just become a pest and keep asking,the worst that could happen is they tell you get lost.Then in x amout of years when its time to clean out they will remember you,because all of a sudden no one will buy the thing at what they want sell it at.and as Maurice pointed out leave your number ,name every time
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Posted By: D-allis Iowa
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 4:38pm
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I know a guy that has a salvalage yard full of over 500 old, some very old cars . Iron and parts would be worth a small fortune but he won't sell any thing and lives in a house that coons climb in from the roof and is falling down. I don't figure these people out but who knows what we will be like if we live to be old.
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