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Air-cooled will not overheat!!!!

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Topic: Air-cooled will not overheat!!!!
Posted By: Auntwayne
Subject: Air-cooled will not overheat!!!!
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 7:59pm
 It has been impossible to make this air-cooled tractor overheatAir-Cooled will not overheat



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Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 8:02pm
TestTestTest 123


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 8:08pm
I see it!!! Is that your front yard its mowing???


Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 8:16pm
     Leave it to the wife not to show the brush hog !!!


Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 8:57pm
Got foam in those bush hog tires?

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Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 9:11pm
      Our tractors have all the good stuff !!!


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 9:12pm
Yes Pat. Foam filled used aircraft tires.


Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 10:03pm
Give it time. It will.   MACK


Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 10:07pm
     It hasn't since bought new in 95 or 96, and, I am the bad boy that puts it to the test each and every time. Now what is your proof !!!
  Mack, IF YOU DO NOT OPERATE OR OWN A 6690, DO NOT CHIME IN ON ONE !!!


Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 10:38pm
AuntWayne, Is this going to turn in to a post like the one where you say everyone who runs a tractor full throttle is an idiot and you get proven wrong and have no more to say?


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 10:41pm
Titanic was unsinkable too! Tracy Martin


Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 10:50pm
      What I would like for "JORDAN FROM OHIO" to do,is, replicate any conversation or post where I said the word "IDIOT". I will await your reply along with the rest of the listening  audience !!!


Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 11:03pm
I went and looked, you did not use the word idiot, but implied it.  Anyway, if I were mowing stuff like that, almost as tall as the tractor, I would be at full throttle.


Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 11:06pm
      I think you need to go to bed, GOOD NIGHT !!!  YAWN !!!


Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 11:19pm
No, I'm wide awake.  Besides, MACK has offered much good advice on many posts and I'm sure he does not own and operate all of the models he has commented on, and certainly does not deserve a comment like you posted.


Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 11:23pm
It would be my opinion that Mack has worked on every one that AGcoAllis has ever made. He is a man of much knowledge.


Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 11:36pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he was an A-C dealer mechanic. I agree with Dave, knows his stuff...

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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 11:50pm
whew!


Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 7:19am
Whew at full throttle too!

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Posted By: ky wonder
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 7:59am

From the photo and where the cut line is running inside the tires, it would appear that the tractor is pulling a small unit that will not cut out its tracks. hard to over anything a 80+ hp tractor with a 5/6 foot mower,

and it also looks like the unit is cuting high from where the grass has been cut on the previous round or it has been a while since re-entering the field.
 
 
 
 you have a great looking tractor, but i have no experience with anything aircolled, but i will only run my pto equipment at the tractors posted rpm speed for the machines rating


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Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 8:14am
Thats a nice looking tractor, its in good shape. Aircooled are hard to overheat, BUT they will, have one in my combine. Trick is to keep them clean, really clean. 

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Posted By: KGood
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 9:47am
That is a nice looking unit. What do they use for heat in the cab? I did see a duetz engine overheat in a ingersoll rand air compressor. Evidentally the bearings went out of the belt driven cooling blower. After that it needed new blower assembly,belt and took out some tin duct work.


Posted By: Kcgrain
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 3:09pm
Its just as impossible to make a properly maintained water cooled engine overheat.


Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 3:15pm
just what temperature does the oil get to ?

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Posted By: wheatbreeder
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 3:27pm
I have a 6690 love it they use a use a second alternator  to power the heater



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Posted By: ranger42
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 3:30pm
We bought a Agco 5670 new in 94....I really can't stand the ergonomics of the tractor, but I have to confess we have had no problem with it overheating regardless of the ambient temperature and how hard we were pulling it. As others have said keep the fan belt tight and fins clean not a problem...no more or less likley to overheat than a liquid cooled one IMO. 


Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 3:34pm
For mlpankey, You can run the engine all day and at the end of the day, pull the dipstick out and wipe the oil off with you fingers. Its hot but wont burn you. Sorry dont know the temperature of it though.

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"IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!"


Posted By: VerneM
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 7:17pm
I'm sure it can do a lot of hard work without overheating but I wouldn't tempt fate. Usually when someone claims there vehicle will "never" do something, it usually does. Knock on wood or perhaps on air-cooled metal in this instance. 

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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 8:29pm
We were always told on our liquid cooled tractors to keep a good thermostat in them so they so they would be operating at the proper temperature. An air cooled engine sure is not going to run very warm in the winter.

Dusty


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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 8:36pm
If it air cooled you will have problems.  Looking at dumping our combine because of it.  Every air cooled I've known has been a nightmare.


Posted By: gleaner1
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 9:54pm
Well, not sure what you mean by that but we had three Deutz aircooled years back, two in Gleaners, one was in a Deutz Allis  tractor, best motors we ever ran,  had fare more troubles with the liquid Cummins, water pumps, rads etc, etc.  and as a bonus they were way better on fuel than the ones that replaced them.




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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 11:04pm
When I worked at the AC dealer we had good luck with the aircooled engines. A guy near me hated his new R62 Gleaner when it came with a Cummins. He said it was a dog compared to his old aircooled R62. He now has CAT and not the Challenger either. He had been Gleaner as far back as I can remember.

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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 6:42am
Let me explane what I ment that it will heat. I have saw alot of these heat for alot of different reasons. Front crank seal leak, fan come loose, valve cover leak, hard to clean oil cooler, Hyd. heats for some reason, and other things.
 I believe Deutz engine is the better of the two engins. Like Deutz The motor is the best part of both tractors .
The air cooled engine takes more care tha a liquid cooled engine.   MACK


Posted By: nsula_country
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 9:07am
I have run a 100 hp Deutz (older Deutz, not Deutz-Allis) a good bit. It was a strong tractor, odd sounding engine, but never had any problems. It did seem that it was harder to keep oil in those engines. I was told they used few gaskets and parts were hand lapped to seal?

CT


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 7:30pm
I know the air cooled engines usually have a larger engine oil capacity because the oil plays a larger role in the cooling. Replying to what Lonn stated, there is a total either like it our hate it when it comes to the combine engines. I have heard nothing but positive about aircooled in the gleaners. We are really sticklers about maintaining equipment though and others not so good as I'm sure we can all agree on. Ryan



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