yellow B
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Topic: yellow B
Posted By: Ed in TX
Subject: yellow B
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 7:45pm
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The orange paint on my 38 B is flaking and there's yellow underneath. I noticed it when I brought it home and I assumed it had been repainted a few times in it's life. I've started working on it and it looks like it the yellow was the 1st coat. Did they paint any yellow from the factory? It's not a bright yellow, more like road equipment yellow. |
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Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 7:52pm
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primer ------------- |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 7:54pm
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yep, primer.. full of lead, and TOUGH stuff. THe PO1 will come off, but the yellow is tight ! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Hartland Farm
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 9:47pm
| I have a 1945 C that was bought new by the Weakley Co. TN highway department in 1945. The man I got it from said that he painted it orange but when he first got it it was school bus yellow. When I started taking the orange off sure enough one heavy coat of yellow. The yellow had run down in between the parts and was the first coat. I have heard this discussed before and many say that AC never painted any C's yellow from the factory. But that being said. If this tractor was orange from the factory it was completely taken apart, the orange stripped off, put back together and painted yellow. I don't think that happened. Or the tractor was primered at the factory in yellow and the highway department used it that way. Or it came from the factory in yellow. Joe |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 9:51pm
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The C we just brought home this summer, is all yellow as well, not a spec of orange on it, I was thinking Highway department as well, it is an early model, with the hand brakes. ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 9:52pm
| There wasn't any primer used on the tractors with the old lead paint. I'vce sanded and stripped 6 tractors from 39 to 57 and none of them had primer under the paint. One of the advantages of using paint with lead in it. If it is yellow, it was a raod dept tractor. Bob |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 5:34am
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When I stripped my '48 B it was yellow on the bottom layer and I got it from the original owner. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 6:35am
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I have never seen anything next to the metal on any B or C or CA that I have parted out except extreamly faded and discolored PO1 or rust. I would like to here what Ed in NY who has parted out hundreds of Bs and Cs as to say. He should recall if he ever saw anything resembling yellow primer next to the metal. I just do not buy the yellow primer first coat theory. AC did not prime tractors. They painted them assembled with a LEAD based paint that was a metal primer and finish in one coat in a shade of AC Orange known as PO#1. This goes for the cast parts, the forged parts, the nuts and bolts and washers, and the sheetmetal. What happend paint wise after they left the factory paint department is no tellin what.
I do believe the few Bs sold to the US war department were painted OD Green at the factory. Could be some tractors ordered by city and state governments were painted with something other than PO#1 at the factory.
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Posted By: dustinmo
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 8:47am
| Ive got a parts CA and it is yellow as the first coat , as far as I knew allis didnt start with the yellow primer until the D series , But this is just what I have seen in person, |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 2:14pm
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As an option on the IB's you could pay extra to get them painted any color (within reason) you wanted. A lot were sold to Counties and States for mowing on the roads and they wanted them painted their colors.
In fact, I saw a bunch of IB's at the Goto In Westminster, MD 1999 and several were painted other colors.
I would imagine on a special order you could get them painted a different color.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Posted By: 190xt
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 3:03pm
| I have 48 B ground all the paint of yellow under neath it was my grandfathers tractor he bought new |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 3:28pm
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The yellow is most likely primer. With that said, AC was like any other tractor manuafacturer......but enough tractors and the factory would have made em any color.......------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 3:29pm
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Haven't done "hundreds", but I've got about 30 or so in back, and about 20 more that have already been picked and disposed of, and none had yellow underneath. JimD ------------- Owner of http://www.OKtractor.com" rel="nofollow - OKtractor.com PM for an instant response on parts. Open M-F 9-6 Central. We have new and used parts. 877-378-6543 |
Posted By: 190xt
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 3:45pm
| could it be from the paint just being so old or from sitting outside in the sun |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 3:52pm
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I just tore the front off of my D15D and the steering support had yellow under it ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: Murph-NC
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 4:30pm
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I guess it's possible that batches were painted yellow for a large buyer, and then the order was cancelled before delivery, so they sent them back through the line for a coat of orange. ------------- '41 C w/Woods L503 mower, #3 mower, 2-way plows for C |
Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 4:48pm
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AC started priming when the D series came out ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
Posted By: Todd AL
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 6:55pm
Yup, most likely scenario.
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Murph-NC wrote:Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 8:41pm
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When you got ONE tractor and you sand thru the layers of paint and find yellow next to the metal you think it must be primer and that they are all that way. That makes sense.
When you have 40 tractors and you sand thru the layers of paint and find only orange all the way down to the metal on all of them you think they are all that way and that no primer was used. That makes 40 times more sense.
With all the paints available today and the many ways you may want to repaint your tractor, who really gives a hoot how Allis painted them back in the 30s 40s and 50s.
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Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 10:53pm
| I bought a CA that was yellow with no orange underneath. It belonged to a local highway dept. I'm also working on a D14 today and didn't find any yellow under the orange, Maybe they started using yellow primer when they started to use the PO#2. Bob |
Posted By: junkman
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 11:33pm
| First tractor I drove was a early b with belly mower. all painted yellow. came from the highway dept. |