AC 220 compared to other brands in 1970
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Topic: AC 220 compared to other brands in 1970
Posted By: WD45
Subject: AC 220 compared to other brands in 1970
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 9:45pm
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Year is 1970 - performance comparison of AC220 to what the competion was building in the 1970.
eg JD 4620. Does anyone have the Nebr. tests reports for these tractors. ------------- Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H |
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Posted By: ky wonder
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 9:55pm
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you can check hear they have the easiest way to look them up
http://www.tractordata.com/ - http://www.tractordata.com/ ------------- i like old tractors of all colors |
Posted By: Gatz in NE
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 10:07pm
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http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/0/7/75-john-deere-4620-tests.html - TractorData.com John Deere 4620 tractor tests information
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/1/8/187-allis-chalmers-220-tests.html - TractorData.com Allis Chalmers 220 tractor tests information
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Posted By: WD45
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 10:10pm
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Thanks
Anyone farm with these tractors when new to give a comparison report . ------------- Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H |
Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 10:48pm
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we have a 220 great tractor ------------- 2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw |
Posted By: nsula_country
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 11:03pm
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Looks like the 220 would do the same work at 1/2 gal/hr of fuel less. CT |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 11:24pm
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220 complete test report
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1123&context=tractormuseumlit&sei-redir=1#search=220%20allis%20nebraska%20test - http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1123&context=tractormuseumlit&sei-redir=1#search=%22220%20allis%20nebraska%20test%22
4620 complete test
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1439&context=tractormuseumlit&sei-redir=1#search=4620%20deere%20nebraska%20test%20report - http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1439&context=tractormuseumlit&sei-redir=1#search=%224620%20deere%20nebraska%20test%20report%22
220 Manual
Max PTO HP at rated rpm - 135.95. Economy 15.66 HP Hrs/Gal
Max drawbar HP at rated rpm - 117.21. Economy 13.54 HP Hrs/Gal
426 cid turbo
Bare weight 24.5x32 singles - 12,160#
8 speeds forward 2 reverse
Fuel tank - 51 gal
4620 SyncroRange Manual with syncronizers)
Max PTO HP at rated rpm - 135.76. Economy 14.70 HP Hrs/Gal
Max drawbar HP at rated rpm - 115.75. Economy 12.66 HP Hrs/Gal
404 cid turbo
Bare weight with 20.8x38 duals - 14,800#
8 speeds forward 2 reverse
Fuel tank - 50 gal ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 7:00am
| Looks fairly even on the PTO. With ballast the 220 pretty much delivered the goods compared to the JD. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 7:16am
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Notice the economy difference. The 220 will do more work on quite a bit less fuel. I couldn't find torque rise value but I'd put my money on the 220 to have better torque rise. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Kcgrain
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 7:48am
| The 4620 in real life was no comparison to a 220. Had one, been there done that kinda thing, 220 would eat a 5020, and would put the fear of god into a 6030. |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 10:31am
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The 220 from the factory would put out near it's Nebraska hp. The Deere tractors of that era wouldn't come close. If you increased the fuel to the Deere's to get Nebraska hp, your fuel economy really went into the dumpster and engine durability would suffer.
------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 11:06am
| From what I can recall of our field demonstrations back then, there was nothing that came close to a Two-Twenty for field performance. Heck, the One-Ninety XT diesels were outperforming IH 1206's. Don't remember much JD competetion other than 4020's weren't close either. |
Posted By: ky wonder
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 3:30pm
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the 4020 should not be close you are talking about a 92hp tractor ------------- i like old tractors of all colors |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 3:46pm
I think he was referring to when they demoed 190 XTs. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
ky wonder wrote:Posted By: TerrySWIA
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 6:22pm
| I don' t have to read the Nebraska tets. I farm with these tractors everyday. Ive got a 220, 4620, 1256, G708, 2150, 97, 2255. All FWA's, and there is none of them that have the power, the old 220 has. Every one of them have something I like about them. An employee of mine said it best. The rest of those tractors are OK, but none of them are fit to bring water to the old 220. The 4620 has been a very good machine but not much power. |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 6:38pm
I always like the looks of the G708-------got any pictures?? ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |