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Topic: paint
Posted By: vyvyjim
Subject: paint
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 8:01am
I'm restoring a series iv d17 and would like to buy the hardware needed to paint it.  I have a large compressor.  What spray gun, etc. would you suggest?



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Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 8:07am
Make sure its a HVLP (high volume low pressure).
 
Devilbiss makes some nice ones, again, you get what you pay for though.


Posted By: Jacob (WI,ND)
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 8:12am
A lot depends on how much you want to invest.  And if this is going to be a one time thing, or do you plan on doing many more restorations in the future.  If you are going to do more, spend the money and get a good gun.  As for specifics, I'm not the expert.  There are many options these days.  Just don't go with the special of the day is what I'm getting at.  A good gun will make all the difference.
Be sure you have a good regulator and drier in your air lines as well.  Water and paint are a bad combination.
Good luck, let us know how you make out!


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Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 8:21am
there is a decal on the side of my gun that says ACME
 
It is the only gun I ever bought and I am well into social security.    If it has a brass nozzel, atomizes well you are in business.
 
Sure the HVLP guns are touted to be the cats meow, but if you are not gonna do a lot of painting, manbe you don't need that technology.
 
I think it is what fits your needs and not not necessarily you have to spend a lot of money because you get what you pay for.


Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 8:29am
You can buy a cheap gravity feed gun and paint anything you need to on a tractor. Gravity feed has the cup on top and you can mix up a spoon full of paint and spray it if you want. I paint some for the public and all I use is a cheap one.JP


Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 9:35am
I buy a lot of my tools from Northern Hydraulics, and I bought a 3 piece set of HLVP spray guns from them and am very happy. Really good bang for the buck. Get recomendations on mixing paint from your supplier and follow it to the "T" and you will have good luck. Less is better than more when you are learning. And if you are using hardener, please use a good filtered mask. Silicone resides in your lungs for a loooong time!!! 

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Posted By: frankmi
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 10:51am
Some might not like this but bought my HVLP from Harbor Freight and for the money its a very good deal! Bought the one that has the 2 quart cup away from the gun and only the supply and product hoses to the gun. This is great because you can climb under, over, and around things with only the bulk of the gun. Also works in any position whereas a siphon gun will only work in upright position. Cost is only $50-$60. Make sure you have a couple of in line water filters on air supply lines! Have painted dozens of tractors, and equipment with this set up. Make sure you strain the paint and thin it plenty and use tack coat method and you will do great!


Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 11:06am
A lot of guys use the harbor freight gun for primer.  I would suggest using to different guns, one for primer, one for paint or other wise you are changing needles and orfices back and forth. 

I use a sharpe cobalt as my paint gun, as it was the most recommended "value" gun for many years.  I don't know if it still is or not.  Devilbliss used to have a good "value" gun as well, but its been 4 or 5 years so I don't know how much times have changed. 


Posted By: Fred
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2011 at 9:52am
Look for a gun that is gravity feed that the cup attaches to the side of the gun.  They are usually not large guns and are inexpensive. I've worn out a couple of these already painting stuff.  The best part of this gun it makes it very easy to paint the underside because you could swivel the cup and spray straight up or if need be straight down or whatever way you position your cup.  I bought my first one at a tool store that sells cheap tools and one at a car show. I wish I could tell you where to buy one right off but can't.  Look for this type of gun and you will be happy.  It is a gravity feed gun so you will be able to use every last drop of paint which is a real plus when using paint that has hardeners in it. Like when you are painting two or three little pieces as there is no waste. I tried to post a few pictures of the gun but somehow I got a picture of our cat with them and can't unattach it.
I'm not even sure the pictures will be there.


Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2011 at 12:47pm
In general, a paint gun is only as good as its operator.

The longivety of the guns may vary but all can do a decent job of painting if you use good technique.

Here are a couple of helpful links about painting:

Ask Dr. Gun
http://www.sharpe1.com/sharpe/sharpe.nsf/Page/Ask+Dr.+Gun - http://www.sharpe1.com/sharpe/sharpe.nsf/Page/Ask+Dr.+Gun

Autobody Store.com
http://www.autobodystore.com/home.shtml - http://www.autobodystore.com/home.shtml
Len Stuart at Autobody Store is a great guy and has produce some excellent videos. The forums are also very informative on his website.  Lots of great information for the novice and experienced painters.





Posted By: weaver
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2011 at 1:17pm
I have to agree with Fred . I havent seen one with the cup on the side,but would come in really handy. When i painted the underside of my tractor that was a problem i had painting a few spots.


Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2011 at 4:06pm
My favorite spray gun set up is a 2 quart pressure pot with remote HVLP gun. 
A helpful trick is to tape the hoses to your arm.  This keeps the hoses from brushing up against fresh paint.




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