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D-Series 3 Point Measurement Request

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Topic: D-Series 3 Point Measurement Request
Posted By: Clayfoot
Subject: D-Series 3 Point Measurement Request
Date Posted: 27 May 2026 at 11:46am
Anyone with a Cross MFG drawbar mounted 3 point conversion willing to supply a couple measurements? I'm specifically looking for;

1. The length of the bracket that bolts to the drawbar

2. The center-to-center length between the 2 bolt holes on that same bracket

3. The width of the angle iron that the pins are welded to on that lower bracket

I'd like to weld one up that has a little more reinforcement around the pins and plan to order the arms to go on it so I don't have to swap back and forth between the drawbar and Cross' light duty 3 point adapter.

Here's a link to the part I'm looking for measurements on: https://www.oktractor.com/osc/cross-mfg-combo-mainframe-bracket" rel="nofollow - https://www.oktractor.com/osc/cross-mfg-combo-mainframe-bracket

Thank you!



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Posted By: Clayfoot
Date Posted: 29 May 2026 at 2:05pm
Anyone?


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 29 May 2026 at 2:22pm
Be glad to measure mine but it's a cross that goes in the snap coupler. Sorry


Posted By: Clayfoot
Date Posted: 30 May 2026 at 6:00am
Is your's a homemade adapter? The Cross MFG bracket bolts to the factory drawbar that connects to the snap coupler.


Posted By: Travis2766
Date Posted: 30 May 2026 at 6:14am
Which series? I can get you the dimensions for a series IV but the conversions for the earlier series’ were different.

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190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66, 1947 Rotobaler, #78 Rake, K2 Gleaner


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 30 May 2026 at 6:23am
Mine is a Cross brand on a Series 1 D 15. Drawbar I have goes on the ends of the lift arms.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 30 May 2026 at 7:26am
Call Jim at ok tractor and ask him.


Posted By: Clayfoot
Date Posted: 30 May 2026 at 8:25am
Originally posted by Travis2766 Travis2766 wrote:

Which series? I can get you the dimensions for a series IV but the conversions for the earlier series’ were different.


The one that's linked in the original post. For the D14, D15, and D17 drawbars. Doesn't matter the series. It's the bracket that bolts to the snap coupler drawbar itself, not the bail.


Originally posted by ACinSC ACinSC wrote:

Mine is a Cross brand on a Series 1 D 15. Drawbar I have goes on the ends of the lift arms.


If you click on the link in my original post, and you have that bracket on yours, that's what I need the measurements from.


Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

Call Jim at ok tractor and ask him.

I emailed them, but I have yet to hear anything back.







Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 30 May 2026 at 9:40am
I'm not near my D 15 but that picture doesn't look familiar at all. Sorry


Posted By: Travis2766
Date Posted: 30 May 2026 at 10:46am
Originally posted by Clayfoot Clayfoot wrote:

Originally posted by Travis2766 Travis2766 wrote:

Which series? I can get you the dimensions for a series IV but the conversions for the earlier series’ were different.


The one that's linked in the original post. For the D14, D15, and D17 drawbars. Doesn't matter the series. It's the bracket that bolts to the snap coupler drawbar itself, not the bail.


Originally posted by ACinSC ACinSC wrote:

Mine is a Cross brand on a Series 1 D 15. Drawbar I have goes on the ends of the lift arms.


If you click on the link in my original post, and you have that bracket on yours, that's what I need the measurements from.


Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

Call Jim at ok tractor and ask him.

I emailed them, but I have yet to hear anything back.


Didn’t see that link, sorry. I can’t help because the Cross adapter for the series IV which is what I have is different from the first 3 series.






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190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66, 1947 Rotobaler, #78 Rake, K2 Gleaner


Posted By: Clayfoot
Date Posted: 31 May 2026 at 8:21am
Originally posted by Travis2766 Travis2766 wrote:



Didn’t see that link, sorry. I can’t help because the Cross adapter for the series IV which is what I have is different from the first 3 series.


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Didn't the D17 Series IV come with a factory 3 point?


I've seen these on so many small coupler tractors that it's hard to believe that none of the people that own any of those are members here. Unfortunately, I just don't get to see any of those in person.


Posted By: Travis2766
Date Posted: 31 May 2026 at 11:37am
D17 IV was able to be ordered with either snap coupler or 3 point.

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190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66, 1947 Rotobaler, #78 Rake, K2 Gleaner


Posted By: Clayfoot
Date Posted: 31 May 2026 at 1:34pm
I see. That would be a bit of a rare option, I'd imagine.


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 31 May 2026 at 3:17pm
i am working on a complete new hitch for my d17 d series 1 but i wont have enought done for anouther week  to post pictures ,  have one like you are looking for but the part you need has been cut off and it was welded to the draw bar on a parts tractor i got and it had ears welded to it and they fit the wd45 bail brackets so it had been around the block afew times before it ,   i am  also modifing the snap coupler three point adpter hictch to go onthe drawbar bolt they will be the same distance from the snap coulper as the stock snap coulper three piont ,    i am useing 180 lift arms and links for the d17  they havnt got to me yet ineed them for more measurments 


Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2026 at 7:53pm
The only dimension I can give is the 16 1/2 inches that the angle iron is in length. Personally I would make it
more like 18 or maybe even 19 1/2 like the width of the drawbar bail.
For using a bale fork, you have to hit dead on or one of the arms always seems to end up under the bail.
And use actual caegory 1 pins. Cold rolled shaft bends too easy.

This is from a guy who uses a D17 almost daily.


Posted By: Clayfoot
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2026 at 5:47am
Originally posted by Nathan (SD) Nathan (SD) wrote:

The only dimension I can give is the 16 1/2 inches that the angle iron is in length. Personally I would make it
more like 18 or maybe even 19 1/2 like the width of the drawbar bail.
For using a bale fork, you have to hit dead on or one of the arms always seems to end up under the bail.
And use actual caegory 1 pins. Cold rolled shaft bends too easy.

This is from a guy who uses a D17 almost daily.


Thank you! I will indeed be using actual cat 1 pins and reinforcing that area as well. Could you possibly get the measurement for the length of the flat bar the angle is welded to and the bolt hole spacing? I have the arms on the way and I just want to make sure I get the location correct on the bracket to avoid shorting myself. I'll probably make that piece closer to 20-21" wide since I have some cat 0 carry over implements and my drawbar bale already has flat bar welded to it as sway stops.


Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2026 at 5:16pm
Center to center is 14 inches on the holes.


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2026 at 7:38pm
post some pictures i always like to see other pepoles ideas because thier are some real good ones out their



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